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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Ya know what would be very cool?
    Don't disclose the race(s) of the involved parties next time something happens like this.
    Sure would keep things quiet and the media home.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I was specifically addressing the accusation of theft.

    As for what you "read" between the lines about this young mans character based on what you see here. That's you perception not fact and it seems informed by something other than what is actually known.

    Neither one of us knows what provoked the confrontation between these two men do we? Maybe the clerk suspected him of something and accused him aggressively? You think just because the clerk is small that means he could not possibly have been the one who started the problem?
    Bad idea, contradicting the official RW sequence of events....


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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Bad idea, contradicting the official RW sequence of events....
    It's also a bad idea making up a narrative and posting it like it's fact when it's anything but....
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Michael Brown appears to have paid for the cigars he was suspected of having stolen.

    What’s more appalling is that the supposed robbery likely had nothing to do with the altercation between Wilson and Brown, as the video was not obtained until well after Brown had been shot and killed by Wilson.

    It’s shameful that the Ferguson authorities would engage in such tactics. Even if Brown had robbed the convenience store, it is irrelevant to the circumstances of the shooting.

    The punishment for petty theft isn’t death. The punishment for suspected petty theft isn’t death. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?


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    Does this look like footage of someone committing a crime?
    This article makes a greater point, one that I think we can't afford to ignore. That point being there seems to be a consistent practice of people shooting unarmed young black men dead then the media demonizing them by creating a false narrative that draws from and perpetuates unfounded stereotypes and prejudices.

    Sometimes I'm not sure which disgusts me more. The people who create these lies or the people who allow themselves to be distracted by them and lose sight of an obvious injustice.

    Does anyone really believe that ALL of these stories of young unarmed black men being shot dead are BS? If so, I see that as a somewhat willing ignorance.
    Good afternoon OD - hope all is well

    I'm at a loss here since the video you provided is basically the same as the one previously presented and in neither one does it show Brown taking out money and paying for the cigars nor getting change. The fact he was at the counter is simply representative of the fact that tobacco products are always sold from behind the counter.

    I also note that this video doesn't show the end of the other video which appears to show Brown grabbing the clerk/owner around the throat. Why is that?

    Is it not possible that Brown has a history of stealing from this store and considering his size and demeanor the clerk/owner is not likely to pursue charges against him? Perhaps being choked by Brown before he left the store caused the clerk/owner to avoid calling the police - the action looks pretty threatening to me.

    I usually don't find you agenda driven in your posts, but this seems to be a thread with a message and conclusion that's not yet supported by the facts.
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I do not believe the one act leads to any conclusions about the other. However, the video does disprove claims that Brown was a "gentle giant."
    I'm reminded of The Friendly Giant and his faithful sidekick Jerome the Giraffe - "look way up, way up, and we'll call Rusty" - another fantasy land favorite.
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good afternoon OD - hope all is well

    I'm at a loss here since the video you provided is basically the same as the one previously presented and in neither one does it show Brown taking out money and paying for the cigars nor getting change. The fact he was at the counter is simply representative of the fact that tobacco products are always sold from behind the counter.

    I also note that this video doesn't show the end of the other video which appears to show Brown grabbing the clerk/owner around the throat. Why is that?

    Is it not possible that Brown has a history of stealing from this store and considering his size and demeanor the clerk/owner is not likely to pursue charges against him? Perhaps being choked by Brown before he left the store caused the clerk/owner to avoid calling the police - the action looks pretty threatening to me.

    I usually don't find you agenda driven in your posts, but this seems to be a thread with a message and conclusion that's not yet supported by the facts.
    CJ, did you read what I wrote?

    BTW, thank you for giving me the bene on the agenda driven thing
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    CJ, did you read what I wrote?
    I went back and reread it - not sure what point you want me to address.

    If you're trying to claim that the Brown death is an example of an innocent young black man being killed by police, you've picked a really bad example to make the point. I may grant you that it happens in the US, but here in Canada there are also concerns about police shooting and killing people of various races, mostly white as it turns out, who act in a threatening manner and end up being mentally ill or suffering from a mental episode of some sort. But they were still threatening, often with a weapon but not always.

    This may be more of an issue in the US as it relates to young black men, but Brown is a terrible example to use and you cannot credibly deny that crime among young black men is significantly higher, in many communities, than crime among other races.

    On the basis of the facts as presented so far and the circumstances of the confrontation - time of day, location, Brown's prior actions, etc. - lead me to believe this was a justified killing by the officer - you'll have to do a hell of a lot more than simply smear by association to convince me otherwise.
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "You people" means what exactly?

    Please, for once, would one of "you people" actually cite something? If there's so much ****ing "proof" around, where is it?
    Oh lord... you did the "You people" thing..... Classic.

    We have posted links to admission of guilt by Brown's accomplice.... and videos... and articles about the police report for the robbery. How much more do you want?

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Well here..."you people" can be and often is taken with racist implications.
    Only by race baiting retards. You people refers to a group of people that are being spoken to by the person who is directing their comments to them. Thats what it means anywhere. The whole "you people" thing being racist is just another way to try to control others and ignore what is being said.

    Its rather pedantic and pathetic.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Oh lord... you did the "You people" thing..... Classic.

    We have posted links to admission of guilt by Brown's accomplice.... and videos... and articles about the police report for the robbery. How much more do you want?
    One. More. Time.

    If the links are so ubiquitous then post them. This thread and about five others are filled with people quoting memes, and this one has at least seven requests for a link. So far, only comments/opinion/bs that there are many, many, many.

    Pardon me, but I have stopped believing all of you all together. when you can array these so very plentiful links on which you have based the absolute public conviction of a dead boy please let me know.

    Until then, I suggest this stupid and childish game of "is so" is an insult. if you have the goods, bring 'em. otherwise please keep the pie hole firmly closed.
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