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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That seems to be a pretty popular narrative. Some of the comments I've been reading on other sites are truly remarkable. There seem to be a lot of folks out there who seriously believe that cops actively seek to shoot black males and that the only reason anyone would even consider questioning the Dorian Johnson version of events is racism.
    Dorian Johnson is about as credible as Donald Rumsfeld.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Actually.... This has nothing to do with people's personal prejudices.

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    I have to disagree.

    This thread is all about prejudice. It tries to foist a lie because the 300 pound thug is black and the 150 pound person he intimidates is white. THe originator of the thread even went so far as to say "so what?" in response to her defense of the black thug and his roughing up the white clerk.

    THat shows some pretty extreme prejudice there.
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    A police report, an accomplice and his attorney admitted to it, and a video...... and there is no proof a robbery occurred?

    My god you people are incredible.

    "You people" means what exactly?

    Please, for once, would one of "you people" actually cite something? If there's so much ****ing "proof" around, where is it?
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "You people" means what exactly?

    Please, for once, would one of "you people" actually cite something? If there's so much ****ing "proof" around, where is it?
    I was doing a search for "you people" just now, and this thread came up. People are smakin' about me again huh?

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "You people" means what exactly?


    I would assume that "you people" here would refer to any person so completely lacking in integrity that they would claim a video as showing something it doesn't show at all while dismissing something that an unedited video very much shows as being somehow irrelevant.
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I would assume that "you people" here would refer to any person so completely lacking in integrity that they would claim a video as showing something it doesn't show at all while dismissing something that an unedited video very much shows as being somehow irrelevant.
    Well here..."you people" can be and often is taken with racist implications. Being mutli-cultural and having so many cultures, such a reference could mean a generalization about an identifiable group. Sometimes such comments lead to criminal charges....

    The use of it here is insulting.
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I would assume that "you people" here would refer to any person so completely lacking in integrity that they would claim a video as showing something it doesn't show at all while dismissing something that an unedited video very much shows as being somehow irrelevant.
    Circuitous, but undoubtedly on target - I think! :

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Okay - putting aside the Ferguson everything.

    Be honest: this video doesn't show anything. Just how crappy is security footage there in that convenience store? I can't see the clerk. I can't see the register. Leaning forward just a little and in fact his entire face is concealed. You can't see anything he's doing. Nothing is evident.

    Further - regardless of whether he paid or not, just what was the clerk doing, then, by confronting him at the door? Why did he, just moments later, get in the clerk's face in an aggressive manner? If he didn't steal anything then why did the clerk say he did?

    I think you're trying to show this to 'prove he was a great guy' but there's nothing here to see - I know just as much now as I did before watching it: absolutely nothing.

    It would take a leap of faith greater than stepping from the Lion's Mouth for me to watch that and conclude diddly squat.
    No I am not trying to prove he was a great guy. It's amazing to my how just because someone doesn't get on the hate bandwagon with one side it is automatically assumed you are on the hate bandwagon with the "other" side.

    I don't know this person, know one here does and making any judgement about his character based on nothing more than the information we receive through the media is stupid.

    This footage does nothing more than show that the footage only confirms that nothing can be confirmed by it. Regardless of which position you take. My point in the OP was that people demonized the guy based on a video that in actuality shows nothing either way.

    Before posting this I had heard a version of events that said MB tried to buy more cigars than he could afford and clerk told him to put them back and grabbed MBs arm when he tried too. MB put the cigars back but the clerk did not know that and chased after him mistakenly accusing him of stealing so MB got ticked and basically grabbed him by the collar and told him to F off. I am not saying that version of events is true but viewing the video with that version in mind it look, at the time, like that version could have been true.

    So I then go, well who knows and really...WTF does it matter
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Circuitous, but undoubtedly on target - I think! :

    Greetings, Gardener.
    I just wanted to say here, p, and I say it without any prejudice on my part taking into account the nature of our relationship, your general good nature and your ability to speak you mind without rancor, and hoping as I am that my words here which are offered here in earnest will be taken as such, the gentle advice of one Andre Gide coming to mind in regards to the often times impossible task of being sincere and appearing so, not to mention the general undermining of confidence threads such as these reveal due to the general disregard so many seem to have to evidence, truth, or anything that can be verified through observation, especially inasmuch as the cognitive dissonance created due to the gulf between their predetermined positions and observable reality can result in such heaping reams of denial, obfuscation, misdirection and other aspects of a campaign of agitprop aimed at diverting attention away from their manifestly dishonest nature that it may prove difficult to seperate the two, but thank you for your kind words.
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I just wanted to say here, p, and I say it without any prejudice on my part taking into account the nature of our relationship, your general good nature and your ability to speak you mind without rancor, and hoping as I am that my words here which are offered here in earnest will be taken as such, the gentle advice of one Andre Gide coming to mind in regards to the often times impossible task of being sincere and appearing so, not to mention the general undermining of confidence threads such as these reveal due to the general disregard so many seem to have to evidence, truth, or anything that can be verified through observation, especially inasmuch as the cognitive dissonance created due to the gulf between their predetermined positions and observable reality can result in such heaping reams of denial, obfuscation, misdirection and other aspects of a campaign of agitprop aimed at diverting attention away from their manifestly dishonest nature that it may prove difficult to seperate the two, but thank you for your kind words.
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