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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I was specifically addressing the accusation of theft.

    As for what you "read" between the lines about this young mans character based on what you see here. That's you perception not fact and it seems informed by something other than what is actually known.

    Neither one of us knows what provoked the confrontation between these two men do we? Maybe the clerk suspected him of something and accused him aggressively? You think just because the clerk is small that means he could not possibly have been the one who started the problem?
    It's damn sure a fact that he assaulted the clerk. Assault is a crime.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    How do you think this video is "doctored" exactly.
    How does it show he paid for anything? I see no reaching into his pocket for his wallet, money or a card coming out .... I guess I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's damn sure a fact that he assaulted the clerk. Assault is a crime.
    So what. What does that have to do with the actual issue?
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    So what. What does that have to do with the actual issue?
    Because if he was involved in a robbery and assault, that might be why the incident with Officer Wilson went as far as it did.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    So what. What does that have to do with the actual issue?
    Because assault is a crime and Brown's actions illustrate his criminal frame of mind.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Because if he was involved in a robbery and assault, that might be why the incident with Officer Wilson went as far as it did.
    Right. Although Officer Wilson didn't know that a robbery had been reported, Brown, IF he committed a robbery, might well have thought that the cop did know and was going to apprehend him.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If he paid, why does the clerk basically chase Brown out of the door, and try to prevent him from leaving as was seen in the other video (1:20)?

    Why does Brown shove the clerk out of the way and visibly rear up to intimidate him into submission?



    He was involved in a borderline assault, if nothing else. It seems pretty clear that some wrongdoing on Brown's part provoked that situation.

    Given the fact that he was willing to threaten and do physical violence to a store clerk half his size, I frankly don't doubt that he'd be willing and able to display similarly aggressive behavior towards a police officer either.
    I do not believe the one act leads to any conclusions about the other. However, the video does disprove claims that Brown was a "gentle giant."

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because assault is a crime and Brown's actions illustrate his criminal frame of mind.
    I look at the injuries to the cop and the pattern of the shots to Brown's body more so than trying to ascertain the perp's "state of mind. "All the shots are far to the right and somewhat scattered, totally opposite of what one would expect if he was surrendering and the cop blasted him in cold blood.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    You mean the lie that he actually paid for the cigars?



    "ALL"? Which ones are we talking about? I can think of only two major news stories about a "young unarmed black man" being shot dead and they were both very recent. And in the first event (Trayvon Martin) it was clear from medical testimony and eyewitnesses that the "young unarmed black man" had the upper hand and was beating Zimmerman. In this instance, I haven't heard enough evidence to know for sure what happened, but I sure as heck ain't gonna jump on this knee-jerk, overly-dramatic, moronic soapbox that OMGZ!!! Racist!!!! Anyone with half a brain isn't one of those people.
    You bring up a point which was settled in the Zimmerman case, which is once again being claimed in this case. You do not need to be packing a high power handgun to be considered capable of deadly force. Anybody capable of deadlifting a store clerk would considered capable. And Mr. Brown certainly was.

    I do not see the robbery as an issue in whether or not the shooting was justified. Only whether or not the officer thought he was in danger of bodily harm. Brown was capable. The question is: Were Browns actions sufficient to make the officer believe he was in danger?

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    How do you think this video is "doctored" exactly.
    How many times are you going to need to have the same thing explained to you, anyway? Sheesh!

    The part in this supposedly "full" video removed the part that showed the 300 pound bully assaulting the clerk half his size.

    Do your eyes simply not work at all?
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