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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Mittner View Post
    I ran with this when I saw an article suggesting the video shows he paid, but in the end I took down my support of that view.

    There are things you can deduce from the video that works each way.

    In Support of Purchase:

    Brown has a number of products he seems to have taken to the counter and the exchange with the clerk, and his other movements and behaviors, come across as very natural; he's not being forceful and he's not attempting to be sneaky. There's even some movements that indicate he left some products behind as though he couldn't afford them all. Then, when the clerk comes around and goes past him, there's no sign of hostility or strange behavior by either person.

    Then there's a couple other things not directly related to the longer video. If the clerk went up there with the intent to stop Brown, well... that's just an incredibly stupid decision. Brown is twice his size. How exactly did the clerk expect to stop him? Lastly, the clerk never called the cops to report a robbery. The call was made by another customer and there's no telling what that customer saw; if they only saw altercation at the door it'd be logical to assume a robbery, but perhaps not factual.

    In Support of Robbery:

    The final altercation would suggest a robbery, though it remains possible there were simply words exchanged that offended Brown, or some other cause for it. Then the store hasn't seemed to dispute the fact there was a robbery, so there probably was one.
    This was exactly kind of rational and objective response I had hoped to get when I posted this video. Thank you
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    I don't care what happened in the store because it had nothing to do with him being shot. In the end what matters is the autopsy, specifically were there choke marks on Brown and where and how did the bullets penetrate his body. Does the science match witness descriptions of the event? Fact is it tells a completely different story, one that supports the cop's version not Darian Johnson's.

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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I don't care what happened in the store because it had nothing to do with him being shot. In the end what matters is the autopsy, specifically were there choke marks on Brown and where and how did the bullets penetrate his body. Does the science match witness descriptions of the event? Fact is it tells a completely different story, one that supports the cop's version not Darian Johnson's.

    Please stop being so logical and reasonable you're messing up the DP mojo
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    Re: Michael brown paid, full footage shows

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Neither one of us knows what provoked the confrontation between these two men do we? Maybe the clerk suspected him of something and accused him aggressively? You think just because the clerk is small that means he could not possibly have been the one who started the problem?
    I wonder how often that clerk initiates fights with paying customers that are much larger than him?
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