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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    For all the whining about the southern border, no one seems worried about the more common means of getting into the US. That is, on a commercial airline. Most illegal immigrants get here that way. The 9/11 hijackers got here that way. Most people do. Worrying about the US/Mexico border because of Middle Eastern terrorists is astoundingly stupid.
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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    So the Pentagon has checked and identified every individual that has crossed the border, including those that made it through without any detention or border patrol interaction?
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    Perfectly well, just as Perry said its possible the ISIS has crossed the border. Possible =/= has.
    You can tell the meaning of those two statements apart, can't you?
    I did not say that Perry said otherwise.
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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    For all the whining about the southern border, no one seems worried about the more common means of getting into the US. That is, on a commercial airline. Most illegal immigrants get here that way. The 9/11 hijackers got here that way. Most people do. Worrying about the US/Mexico border because of Middle Eastern terrorists is astoundingly stupid.
    Didn't one of the 911 guys come in through Canada?
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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Why in the hell would ISIS members need to pose as Hispanic, payoff Mexican criminal organizations, and sneak across hundreds of miles of desert wasteland to get here via our southern border when easily hundreds of them hold British Passports and could fly here first class if they wanted??
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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I did not say that Perry said otherwise.
    That was what the quote you used from me was in reply to. Which is more or less the point of this thread....to counter Perry's claim that open border could very well permit ISIS to cross.

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Any proof that they are ISIS members? As the Pentagon said: "“I've seen no indication that they are coming across the border with Mexico. We have no information that leads us to believe that." Or are we just going to go with the argument that "well ISIS has members all over the world, so they could be". That augment is not evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    So the Pentagon has checked and identified every individual that has crossed the border, including those that made it through without any detention or border patrol interaction?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    That was what the quote you used from me was in reply to. Which is more or less the point of this thread....to counter Perry's claim that open border could very well permit ISIS to cross.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    "There's the obvious great concern that, because of the condition of the border from the standpoint of it not being secure, and us not knowing who is penetrating across, that individuals from ISIS or other terrorist states could be [crossing]," he said. "There's a very real possibility that they may have already used that [strategy]."

    There is a very real possibility that if you go right now and buy a Powerball you will win.
    There is a very real possibility that you will be hit by a meteor.

    This reminds me of Bush's "concern" over Iraq's flying, venomous robots of terror.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    "There's the obvious great concern that, because of the condition of the border from the standpoint of it not being secure, and us not knowing who is penetrating across, that individuals from ISIS or other terrorist states could be [crossing]," he said. "There's a very real possibility that they may have already used that [strategy]."

    There is a very real possibility that if you go right now and buy a Powerball you will win.
    There is a very real possibility that you will be hit by a meteor.

    This reminds me of Bush's "concern" over Iraq's flying, venomous robots of terror.
    LOL, because the odds of making it across the border unchallenged are equal to that winning the Powerball or getting hit by a meteor.

    You can honestly sit here and proclaim that the possibility is that far removed? Honestly?

    So we just take ISIS's threat of bringing this fight to the US as just chest thumping? If the threat is to be taken seriously, shouldn't you not assess the risk of all possible entry points?

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    LOL, because the odds of making it across the border unchallenged are equal to that winning the Powerball or getting hit by a meteor.
    nope.
    Not because of that.

    Just pointing out what, "There is a very real possibility" means


    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    You can honestly sit here and proclaim that the possibility is that far removed? Honestly?
    I have no idea of the actually level of probability. but if I wanted to know, i would seek out subject matter experts rather than take the word of a politician.
    Not saying that you would take the word of a politician--no one's that dumb.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    So we just take ISIS's threat of bringing this fight to the US as just chest thumping? If the threat is to be taken seriously, shouldn't you not assess the risk of all possible entry points?
    Again, I would defer to subject matter experts rather than poiticians with agendas--e.g any of them.

    Of course, ymmv
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    HTF would the DOD know anything about that?

    Remember this is the same bunch that unsuccessfully raided camps in Syria looking for hostages on BAD intelligence.

    Bad intelligence is putting it mildly. Apparently, Americans were spotted in a local market near where Foley was held, asking if anyone had seen or knew where he was. That gave his captors plenty of warning and time to move him.

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