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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Not all missions are successful. You win some you lose some. And considering how scare intelligence in that area of the world is...

    I'd believe the pentagon over governor oops anyday.
    Considering how emasculated our military has become, i think i'll stick to believing Perry.

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Ever wonder if Russia is supplying the Syrian rebels in much the same way the U.S. supplied the Afghan rebels back in the '80s? After all, they learned the hard way that blindly feeding the military industrial complex on a never-ending war effort was the surest way of kill a nation's economy.
    I'm pretty sure that Russia is supporting president Assad, not the terrorists who along with US support have been working to overthrow him.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Considering how emasculated our military has become, i think i'll stick to believing Perry.
    Our military budget dwarfs the nearest competitor, not to worry.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    You shouldn't even need to ask.
    As a Texan, I'll go with Perry because I'm aware of the situation on the ground here.

    The Pentagon employs my SiL and means little to me otherwise,.
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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    ISIS is overrated. The media is sensationalizing them. They're mostly rag tag fanatic amateurs that are making gains on weakened and disfunctional governments.
    Like ours?
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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Thought I'd help
    Thanks. I'm still fairly new, and have been wondering how to format images like that in a post. Now I know.



    It's not that maps have an established difficulty per acre.
    Different areas require different levels of effort and ability to control.
    Iraq and Syria have not had functional governments for quite some time now.
    It's not the same as if ISIS had captured pieces of two healthy nations.
    These areas are under ISIS control largely because Baghdad and Syria are too feeble to offer resistance.
    I agree with that.

    I've never argued they have the capability of the former-USSR.

    It can be damn funny watching people *overreact* and take to their Doomsday bunkers -- in an effort to flee the onslaught of Sharia Law... and being overrun by camels.

    I just don't think they should be dismissed offhand in the same manner a king might dismiss a village-crowd armed with pitchforks. They're probably closer to the equivalent of the French Army... around the time of the French Revolution.

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And again, they don't have to! That's why we have a Border Patrol agency and ICE agents and the FBI and a Dept. of Homeland Security - federal agencies working in concert w/local authorities to catch the bad guys. No, it didn't work very well in the lead-up to 9/11, but alot has changed since then and there hasn't been another such event on U.S. soil since. That certainly doesn't mean it couldn't happen, but if every agency from bottom to top and back down again are sharing intelligence information and doing their part to catch the bad guys, we shouldn't have to worry about it.

    At this stage, however, I put more of the blame for the holes in our southern border security efforts squarely on Congress, mostly on Republicans. They continue to rant on and on about these illegal alien border crossings, but the moment you ask for federal funds to shore up the leaks, they fall back on "secure the border" first with a fence knowing full well that until you get the manpower behind the surveillance and capture efforts, any attempt to build a fence line will fail. Frankly, I find the idea of a fence along our southern (or northern) border appalling. I mean, how does Reagan get away with demanding that Gorbachev "tear down this wall" but it's just fine for America to build one.
    Without first hand observation, the Pentagon cannot say definitively that the evidence doesn't exist.
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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Like ours?
    No comparison no matter how dysfunctional you think we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Without first hand observation, the Pentagon cannot say definitively that the evidence doesn't exist.
    You're adrift.
    The DoD was saying that they didn't have evidence of it happening, not that evidence does not exist.
    The two statements are not identical nor interchangeable.

    "We have no evidence" ≠ "There is no evidence"

    You can see the distinction between the two statements when they are laid out side by side, yes?


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    So choose either "side" you like. But they're both saying that we have no evidence to support the idea that ISIS is coming across our southern border.

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    Last edited by Simon W. Moon; 08-29-14 at 08:17 AM.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Pentagon: No evidence of ISIS at border

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post
    I don't think "rag tag fanatic amateurs" would be able to impact a map this way.

    The Many Ways to Map the Islamic 'State' - The Atlantic


    While I won't run screaming for the hills just yet, it's clear their control is spreading. I wouldn't call that overrated...

    They will crumble in months up to a year with their psychopath leader killed or captured. Mark my words. They are no match for our firepower and if Iraq finally gets it sheet together. The good part is we will get rid of a good number of terrorist sympathizers once and for all as they are now out in the open and not hiding in our country or other countries.

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