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Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

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And points a gun at them. Isnt that like.... Terrorism or something? Threatening a political movement with death? (or someone covering it)
 
Shouldnt the cops have shot the rogue cop dead? Some dude with a knife threatened a cop and they shot him dead. This cop points an assault weapon at weaponless, peacefull protesters and threatens to kill him and yet no cops shot him. Maybe if the cop was black the other cops would have shot him? (facetious last comment)
 




And points a gun at them. Isnt that like.... Terrorism or something? Threatening a political movement with death? (or someone covering it)


There probably isn't a day that goes by when I don't shout at the TV 'go **** yourself" to some asshole "journalist" who thinks they run the world and are entitled to be anywhere and do anything they want.

That said, the officer was out of line and should be pulled from this duty immediately and perhaps should also have a long, forced, break from any duty. It's impossible to know what stress he's been under the past couple of weeks in Ferguson - probably no less stressful than some have had trouble coping with in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The officer is clearly at a dangerous point in his mental state, but I'm not prepared to call him a terrorist.
 
Eh. He lost his temper, from the looks of things. I don't think he was actually planning on shooting anyone.

Honestly though, I have a hard time getting worked up over this kind of thing.

Screaming "STAY BACK OR I WILL F*CKING SHOOT YOU!!! DO YOU F*CKING UNDERSTAND?!?!" is basically what the military explicitly trains you to do in those kinds of situations. lol
 
Screaming "STAY BACK OR I WILL F*CKING SHOOT YOU!!! DO YOU F*CKING UNDERSTAND?!?!" is basically what the military explicitly trains you to do in those kinds of situations. lol

Is he in the military?
 
Maybe if the cop was black the other cops would have shot him? (facetious last comment)

I believe you meant racist last comment, you are grasping at straws to inflame the situation to advance your anarchist ideals no better than Al Sharpton
 
The cop clearly appeared to be out of line but I wish people would remember that there are always two sides to every story.

I would think police in that part of America are pretty nervous about now.

It does not excuse his behavior...but I think it should be kept in mind while watching this.

I was engaged to a cop's daughter and that is a profession that can be extremely tough to deal with sometimes...let alone when you are surrounded by hostile people during a very bad situation.
 
No, but the situation is vaguely comparable.

An angry, potentially dangerous, mob, is an angry, potentially dangerous, mob. :shrug:

That was an "angry mob"? Walking down the street peaceful, and chanting, is an "angry mob"?
 
That was an "angry mob"? Walking down the street peaceful, and chanting, is an "angry mob"?

Lol. Yea, if I'm not mistaken, they were "chanting" things like "Stop throwing things! Don't throw things! He's got a gun!" while shouting obscenities at the police officers present.

We clearly have different definitions of the word "peaceful."
 
That was an "angry mob"? Walking down the street peaceful, and chanting, is an "angry mob"?

There was no mob peaceful or angry visible in the video.

I agree wholeheartedly that the cop in the film was wrong and deserves to be fired. In fact he had been permanently suspended pending investigation. My guess is they will fire him.

As I said I am cool with that but let's not simply excuse the others involved. No one knows what was happening behind or around the guy with the camera.

So called peaceful protests routinely and typically do attempt to provoke people especially law enforcement into a reaction. They may well have done that and got what they wanted.

We saw it constantly in the anti globalization protests the occupy protests even in older movements such as the vietnam war protests. It is rather two faced to push the authorities to the point that one guy under stress snaps and does something wrong all the while ignoring the fact that it was deliberately engineered.

The protestors need to grow a brain and leave the area they have protested enough to get their point across but now like everyone else they need to wait for the investigation into Brown's death to be completed and accept the results HOWEVER they turn out.

It is very interesting how these protests started before ANY evidence or information was known to the public which means whatever it was they were protesting was based on pure imagination and speculation. Now we only know a LITTLE bit more about the incident and it does not support what the protestors are saying. Yet they keep going.

It could still go eithe rway but for now the scant evidence we have avialable supports the Wlson's supposed narrative and not the protestors. If it is found he was wrong then they should go and peacefully demonstrate to their hearts content against the police. If it is found the shooting was justified they should accept it.

AT this point they are not REALLY protesting anything they are simply trying to scream what they BELIEVE should be done without any consideration of the facts which I can only conclude means they want the Wilson punished whether he is guilty or not.
 
Yes the cop was in the wrong.

In almost every other job I can think of we have people that excel in some areas and flop in others. That's why some people do one job, others another. You'd think when the public and the cops life is at stake that maybe, just maybe some forethought might be given before you place weapons in someone's hands and say off you go, control the crowd. Why do they just take a gaggle of cops and throw them into a powder keg without screening them? This to me is a management fail.

Buddy there was having coping problems...why can't they see that? It doesn't make him a bad cop, but crowd control is obviously not his thing.

We need to start thinking about how these situations are set up.
 
Lol. Yea, if I'm not mistaken, they were "chanting" things like "Stop throwing things! Don't throw things! He's got a gun!" while shouting obscenities at the police officers present.

We clearly have different definitions of the word "peaceful."

I also heard the people saying he was pointing the gun at "my hands are up sir".. Then the office saying "I will ****ing kill you". Then someone asking the officer "what his name was?". Officer replies "go **** yourself".
 
There probably isn't a day that goes by when I don't shout at the TV 'go **** yourself" to some asshole "journalist" who thinks they run the world and are entitled to be anywhere and do anything they want.

A journalist in a public space filming a newsworthy event must think they are entitled to be anywhere and do anything they want because doing their job is the strongest evidence of a sense of entitlement.
 
I also heard the people saying he was pointing the gun at "my hands are up sir".. Then the office saying "I will ****ing kill you". Then someone asking the officer "what his name was?". Officer replies "go **** yourself".

And? The simple fact of the matter is that the guy lost his temper.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that such things have a tendency to happen when a person has spent the last several hours (and very likely, the last several days) being harassed and basically assaulted by an angry mob of idiots intent on doing their best impression of a deranged pack of howling Chimpanzees.

When the other officers on the scene saw what was going on, they took him aside to cool off. Problem solved. :shrug:

For that matter, what gives you the idea that police officers are obligated to tell you their name?
 
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Eh. He lost his temper, from the looks of things. I don't think he was actually planning on shooting anyone.

Honestly though, I have a hard time getting worked up over this kind of thing.

Screaming "STAY BACK OR I WILL F*CKING SHOOT YOU!!! DO YOU F*CKING UNDERSTAND?!?!" is basically what the military explicitly trains you to do in those kinds of situations. lol

That is one of the main complaints. We don't need a military police force in our cities.
 
That is one of the main complaints. We don't need a military police force in our cities.
Yes but when protests turn violent, like has happened in Ferguson, an officer's role changes accordingly. They are now placed in a situation where contain and control are the main objectives. Much like the role of the military.
 
That is one of the main complaints. We don't need a military police force in our cities.

It is a valid complaint as well IMO.

The problem is while I consider it very valid and a very big problem in the US this is all focused on one shooting incident which everyone is using as an example of the problem.

The evidence does not support this incident as such an example however.
 
And? The simple fact of the matter is that the guy lost his temper.
Yea he did. Should be fired.


I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that such things have a tendency to happen when a person has spent the last several hours (and very likely, the last several days) being harassed and basically assaulted by an angry mob of idiots intent on doing their best impression of a deranged pack of howling Chimpanzees.
Tuesday night was relatively calm. If he cant keep his "cool" while peaceful protesters are marching then I dont think he is fit to be a police officer. Pointing your gun at protestors with their hands in the air and asking for his name is beyond inappropriate and there is no excuse.


When the other officers on the scene saw what was going on, they took him aside to cool off. Problem solved. :shrug:
Should never have happened period.

For that matter, what gives you the idea that police officers are obligated to tell you their name?
Because if they are not wearing badges (many in Missouri are not) they are basically acting impunity if they cannot be identified.
 
And? The simple fact of the matter is that the guy lost his temper.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that such things have a tendency to happen when a person has spent the last several hours (and very likely, the last several days) being harassed and basically assaulted by an angry mob of idiots intent on doing their best impression of a deranged pack of howling Chimpanzees.

People who work in service jobs do that 5 days a week, 8 hours a day and if they lose their temper, they lose their job

Many teachers also endure similar conditions, but if they pointed a gun at their students, they'd be fired and rightfully so.

When the other officers on the scene saw what was going on, they took him aside to cool off. Problem solved. :shrug:

For that matter, what gives you the idea that police officers are obligated to tell you their name?

In some states, officers on patrol are required to identify themselves as well as wear name badges or ID badges. Don't know about MO
 
A journalist in a public space filming a newsworthy event must think they are entitled to be anywhere and do anything they want because doing their job is the strongest evidence of a sense of entitlement.

Yes, listening to the audio I could tell these were "journalists" of the highest integrity and professionalism.
 
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