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Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

CanadaJohn said:
I heard people in the audio yelling "don't throw anything" repeatedly. Sounded to me like the potential was there for problems if even the crowd was concerned the situation could escalate if some idiot provoked it.
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I also heard people yelling "my hands are up". I also heard "I will ****ing kill you".
 
I do not have a big problem with the go **** yourself comment he gave. He might have been under a lot of stress lately and he will have been talked too too pleasantly in the past few days either. I also do not have a problem with him having his gun raised if he saw something that was threatening behavior but keeping his gun raised like that when there was obviously no need for him to walk through the protesters with at all (walking along side them would have been just as effective) but doing that while his gun was raised the entire time, that is what is the worst part for me.

I do not know if he was intending to impede a peaceful gathering/demonstration or that he was just trying to terrorize the protesters or try to incite violence and trouble, I do not know. Fact is that a police force cannot justify someone acting like that in a highly polarized situation. Because some asshole cop like that could have caused a huge problem. Now it is only an image problem and for the officer a (hopefully) reprimand problem but it could have caused more bloodshed and violence.

And how about stand your ground laws? Would the protesters have been allowed to "stand their ground" and shoot the cop? He did pose an obvious and clear danger to the protesters who were walking with their hands in the air or filming a demonstration?
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Shouldnt the cops have shot the rogue cop dead? Some dude with a knife threatened a cop and they shot him dead. This cop points an assault weapon at weaponless, peacefull protesters and threatens to kill him and yet no cops shot him. Maybe if the cop was black the other cops would have shot him? (facetious last comment)
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I may need to take a closer look but I'm pretty sure that was an assult rifle not an assult weapon.

What's more important in my mind is that no bystander shot that cop. We say we have arms to prevent tyranical government, but when the government actually does become tyranical we just sit back and take video.
 
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One solution is to pay cops more and attract higher-quality people.
 
dirtpoorchris said:




And points a gun at them. Isnt that like.... Terrorism or something? Threatening a political movement with death? (or someone covering it)
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Every time I see this thread title go by on SPY I laugh my ass off .
 
Gathomas88 said:
Eh. He lost his temper, from the looks of things. I don't think he was actually planning on shooting anyone.

Honestly though, I have a hard time getting worked up over this kind of thing.

Screaming "STAY BACK OR I WILL F*CKING SHOOT YOU!!! DO YOU F*CKING UNDERSTAND?!?!" is basically what the military explicitly trains you to do in those kinds of situations. lol
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He's not in the military. This pisses me off SO MUCH. This cop should be fired, period. You can't go around pointing your gun at non-violent people telling them you're going to kill them. A police officer just can't do that; it is so wrong and so dangerous. This guy is just not qualified for the job.
 
Your Star said:
He's not in the military. This pisses me off SO MUCH. This cop should be fired, period. You can't go around pointing your gun at non-violent people telling them you're going to kill them. A police officer just can't do that; it is so wrong and so dangerous. This guy is just not qualified for the job.
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Fired, sure, but he also belongs in prison.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Shouldnt the cops have shot the rogue cop dead? Some dude with a knife threatened a cop and they shot him dead. This cop points an assault weapon at weaponless, peacefull protesters and threatens to kill him and yet no cops shot him. Maybe if the cop was black the other cops would have shot him? (facetious last comment)
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Good points... except the facetious last one.
 
Jerry said:
I may need to take a closer look but I'm pretty sure that was an assult rifle not an assult weapon..
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:lol: OMG! Who the **** cares? It is a weapon at point blank range that will kill a person dead. I swear I will never understand the anal bull**** about this differentiation.
 
CanadaJohn said:
There probably isn't a day that goes by when I don't shout at the TV 'go **** yourself" to some asshole "journalist" who thinks they run the world and are entitled to be anywhere and do anything they want.
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Best. Statement. This. Month.

Have you ever played "Mad Libs?" Fill in the underlined with your choice of animal, vegetable, or mineral. :mrgreen:

That statement provides infinite possibilities.... "Drunken Jenga" was getting old!



That said, the officer was out of line and should be pulled from this duty immediately and perhaps should also have a long, forced, break from any duty. It's impossible to know what stress he's been under the past couple of weeks in Ferguson - probably no less stressful than some have had trouble coping with in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The officer is clearly at a dangerous point in his mental state, but I'm not prepared to call him a terrorist.
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I don't discount stress or even possible PTSD. That would explain a lot.

However, as a police officer he is meant to be held to a higher standard than us "mere mortals." That's his job.
 
Peter King said:
I do not have a big problem with the go **** yourself comment he gave.
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I do. He is a public servant that is paid by the very people he is telling to **** off. It is totally unprofessional and he should be fired for that reason alone. He should be jailed for threatening to kill people after that. He should have been shot by the other cops who have no problem shooting a guy with a knife, in fact.
 
Bodhisattva said:
:lol: OMG! Who the **** cares?
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You do. That's why you put those words in your post. Attention to detail.

Bodhisattva said:
It is a weapon at point blank range that will kill a person dead.
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I saw a dozen feet of distance between the cop and the reporter, which means it wasn't point-blank.

Bodhisattva said:
I swear I will never understand the anal bull**** about this differentiation.
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Some of us would like to keep our assult weapons and having you put fear in peoples minds only fuels gun control. Please be accurate in your speach.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I do. He is a public servant that is paid by the very people he is telling to **** off. It is totally unprofessional and he should be fired for that reason alone. He should be jailed for threatening to kill people after that. He should have been shot by the other cops who have no problem shooting a guy with a knife, in fact.
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I was only talking about the **** you comment, not about the death threat, that is in a whole league of his own.

And the police is not going to shoot another cop unless there is no other option than physical violence. That high standard should however be used when confronting the general public too.
 
Jerry said:
You do. That's why you put those words in your post. Attention to detail.
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No. I do not care about the type of gun. I care about why you care.

I saw a dozen feet of distance between the cop and the reporter, which means it wasn't point-blank.
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In external ballistics, point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm.

Point-blank range - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some of us would like to keep our assult weapons and having you put fear in peoples minds only fuels gun control. Please be accurate in your speach
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What fear did I put out there Jerry? You know better than to play those games with me.

... and I see you caught that "speach" typo already because we need to be equally accurate in our speech.
 
Peter King said:
I was only talking about the **** you comment, not about the death threat, that is in a whole league of his own.

And the police is not going to shoot another cop unless there is no other option than physical violence. That high standard should however be used when confronting the general public too.
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Oh. Cool. I agree... :)
 
Your Star said:
He's not in the military. This pisses me off SO MUCH. This cop should be fired, period. You can't go around pointing your gun at non-violent people telling them you're going to kill them. A police officer just can't do that; it is so wrong and so dangerous. This guy is just not qualified for the job.
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Well, again... Given how they were shouting at people not to throw things, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that those people really weren't all that "peaceful" in the first place. They looked a lot more like an angry mob going out of their way to provoke a response.

Frankly, they got what they were looking for.

I do agree that the police officer's response was out of line. However, that is exactly why he was removed from the situation by the other officers on the scene, and has since been suspended pending investigation.

If I were to put money on it, I'd bet that the cop in question probably got hit by an object thrown by some belligerent jackass in the crowd, and that's why he flipped out.
 
Bodhisattva said:
In external ballistics, point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm.

Point-blank range - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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"In*forensics*and popular usage,*point-blank range*has come to mean extremely close range (i.e., target within about a meter (3*ft) of the*muzzle*at moment of discharge but not close enough to be an actual*contact shot).[1]"

Bodhisattva said:
What fear did I put out there Jerry?
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Oh you know the whole 'assult weapons are bullies' meme. I never thought you bought into all that. I do believe that offier's rifle was the real-deal, a machiengun, not the civilianised look-alike which is not a machiengun.

So now the next time there's an assult-weapon ban proposed people will recall the immage of this cop comitting agrivated assult on the reporter and be more inclined to support the bill. Thats the kind of thing we gun owners are scencitive about.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
No, but the situation is vaguely comparable.

An angry, potentially dangerous, mob, is an angry, potentially dangerous, mob.
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:shrug:
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And what can happen, given enough time and opportunity, eventually is likely to happen.

It's the way life works (Or fails to work.).
 
Jerry said:
"In*forensics*and popular usage,*point-blank range*has come to mean extremely close range (i.e., target within about a meter (3*ft) of the*muzzle*at moment of discharge but not close enough to be an actual*contact shot).[1]"
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I don't care about that. Not having to even attempt to sight a weapon is point blank.

Oh you know the whole 'assult weapons are bullies' meme. I never thought you bought into all that.
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And I am not worrying about assault weapons versus assault rifles... although you seem unwilling to be rational about it so please go away thinking whatever you like. I love guns and the only people more stupid than those that have to differentiate between types of guns are the ones complaining/whining/bitching that an assault weapon versus an assault rifle actually matters when it comes to a perp walking into a building with unarmed people and executing them.
 
shrubnose said:
The man has a bad attitude, but that can be adjusted.
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The aditude and the words are fine, its the pointing of the rifle which creates a problem. Someone mentioned earlier that military units trained in riot control are taught to project agression through voice and bodylanguage. That's true, but the weapon is never raised exept to fire.

Raising his weapon is the only thing this officer did wrong, and it should land him in prison.
 
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