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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    I just don't get this term "Outside People" or "People From Outside" Ferguson.

    The media is always claiming ....

    People "From Outside" came to cause problems and to encourage this civil unrest."

    Why is it not said this way?.....

    "Protest Supporters from around the nation came to cause problems and to encourage this civil unrest."

    Why are they being described with a suspicious sounding term like "Outsiders"?

    Were there any "Outsiders" at the last political fundraising event in support of the Republican/Democrat candidates and their platform and/or causes?

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    One solution is to pay cops more and attract higher-quality people.
    that's not going to happen...

    "Back in 1999, a Federal judge dismissed a lawsuit by a police applicant who was barred from the New London, Connecticut police force. The reason for the disqualification was literally because he had scored “too high” on an intelligence test. The department made it clear, they didn’t want the bottom of the barrel in terms of intelligence, but they didn’t want anyone “too smart” either."

    Police Officially Refuse To Hire Applicants With High IQ Scores : Political Blind Spot

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I would actualy love to see the raw video. Do you happen to have a link handy?
    You will likely be upset because the intro and end has been edited, but...

    http://youtu.be/lnXnWB0AZgg

    http://youtu.be/oqtiGhpNH9Y

    http://youtu.be/I6ZyztUvK2Y

    (These two were called "helping" the journalists in question)

    I could go on with more...

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    Perhaps you should do some research into this system before you idolize too much. A large amount of case and statutory law has made it very clear that the police are under no obligation to protect citizens.

    Warren v. District of Columbia
    DeShaney v. Winnebago County
    Castle Rock v. Gonzales
    Balistreri v. Pacifica Police Department
    Et cetera.
    This only proves that you don't actually understand what many of those cases were truly about. They do have a job obligation to help people, help to protect citizens, but that doesn't mean that they have any obligation to help in exactly the way that each and every citizen wants them to. That would be impossible. Also, they cannot be everywhere at once. They also decided that just because it is a government agency's job description to help the citizens in some particular way, it doesn't mean that failure to do prevent crime or abuse or whatever means that they violated someone's rights.

    Plus, perhaps you should read what I said. I said "should". For the most part, this is their job despite not being able to protect everyone.

    You cannot show that what you want is likely to be a better system for everyone, particularly the poorest people. Police action would be based on ability to pay for it, which is a horrible system of justice. We would have so many cases of people getting framed or paid off or setup. And forget people's rights. They wouldn't care.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You cannot show that what you want is likely to be a better system for everyone, particularly the poorest people. Police action would be based on ability to pay for it, which is a horrible system of justice.
    You apparently have no clue how the U.S. justice system works. As the saying goes, the U.S. has the best justice system money can buy. Do you suppose they say this because it is "fair" to the "poorest people" as you put it? Of course not.

    Detroit is one of the poorest and most violence cities in America. Yet, they have two of the most cost-effective private "police" forces in the nation. Threat Management Center and Detroit 300.

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    You will likely be upset because the intro and end has been edited, but...

    http://youtu.be/lnXnWB0AZgg

    http://youtu.be/oqtiGhpNH9Y

    http://youtu.be/I6ZyztUvK2Y

    (These two were called "helping" the journalists in question)

    I could go on with more...
    Thank you for those but I thought someone would have the raw vid on the spicific officer threat this thread is about.

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Thank you for those but I thought someone would have the raw vid on the spicific officer threat this thread is about.
    Oh, I'll see if I can find one, at least one with better resolution...

    I was just demonstrating video of the attacks on the media.

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Oh, I'll see if I can find one, at least one with better resolution...

    I was just demonstrating video of the attacks on the media.
    As you predicted I have no love for the media being fired on because, as far as I know, the law gives media no special permission to ignore lawfull orders. If the media did file for and recieved some special exemption from the curfew, then IMO it would be a good idea to add Class-3 reflective vests with the permit number on both sides so that they are easily identified through the smoke, flash-bangs and general chaos of a raid.

    If the law does not extend the media any special permission, then the police were right to fire on them as they cleared the streets.

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If the law does not extend the media any special permission, then the police were right to fire on them as they cleared the streets.
    Am I the only one who finds the practice of enforcing curfews despotic and reprehensible?

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    Am I the only one who finds the practice of enforcing curfews despotic and reprehensible?
    Well, yeah, I do, but I also find out-of-control animalistic behavior reprehensible too.
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