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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He felt his security was compromised (it certainly was, he was alone and surrounded). The people were too close to prevent being rushed. He panicked. I don't believe he meant "I want to kill you", I believe he meant "I'll kill you because if you attack lethal force is legal and will probably result in your death". Obviously, the latter is too long so he just says the beginning.

    He probably meant "I'll shoot if you get closer". The situation makes that likely. Much more likely than a psycho admitting to such.
    1- he was walking through a crowd of people
    2- nobody attacked him in any sense
    3- if the guy is that scared of life, he should not be a cop
    4- he is acting crazed enough that he had to be walked away with another cop (supervisor?)
    5- the cop approached the media .

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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Except that was what I was posting about when you quoted my response in the first place. It's easily explainable:

    Officer perceives a direct threat and raises his rifle.
    The crowd calls out, hey he's got his weapon raised.
    The morons with the camera rush over to film.
    The officer sees a small bunch of idiots rushing towards him and swivels.
    IOW, in the story you just told, the officer sees a threat, raises and points his gun at it, and then turns away from the threat.

    He's an incompetent moron. If there was threat, he shouldn't turn away from it. If there was no threat, he should have lowered his weapon.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You missed the word "private".
    Which is why we don't depend on private police forces.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Really? What part of that video gives you any indication that this is the case?
    Exactly, nobody was threatening him. But you argue with someone who loves the projection of force.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Except that was what I was posting about when you quoted my response in the first place. It's easily explainable:

    Officer perceives a direct threat and raises his rifle.
    The crowd calls out, hey he's got his weapon raised.
    The morons with the camera rush over to film.
    The officer sees a small bunch of idiots rushing towards him and swivels.
    PS - You're story is BS and directly contradicted by the video

    There's no evidence that he had the gun raised before he saw the journalists, the crowd doesn't call out that he's got his gun raised, and the group filming did not rush over to him. He rushed over to them.

    Furthermore, while approaching them, the officer swivels to his left and then back. If the officer thought they were a threat, he should not have turned away from them. If he didn't, he should have lowered his weapon

    Also, immediately before the camera turned to face the officer, they were directly behind another police officer. After the camera turns to film him, a police care enters the frame. IOW, there were plenty of other cops around, and none of them show any signs of perceiving any threats.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Cases then. And again no it's not unless it's provable to a reasonable man that there is real intent to harm behind that threat. Even in California.
    I'd say pointing a rifle at somebody while you say it would lead a reasonable man to conclude he'd just been threatened with death.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nope, not in this context or the way this happened. And yes, the real world I live in is very interesting, you should try it. It's quite different from the world you've only read about.
    Again, I'm willing to bet I've seen a hell of a lot more of the real world in my life than you have in yours. I get it. You love cops. You defend them even when their own department doesn't. That is real loyalty.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    PS - You're story is BS and directly contradicted by the video

    There's no evidence that he had the gun raised before he saw the journalists, the crowd doesn't call out that he's got his gun raised, and the group filming did not rush over to him. He rushed over to them.

    Furthermore, while approaching them, the officer swivels to his left and then back. If the officer thought they were a threat, he should not have turned away from them. If he didn't, he should have lowered his weapon

    Also, immediately before the camera turned to face the officer, they were directly behind another police officer. After the camera turns to film him, a police care enters the frame. IOW, there were plenty of other cops around, and none of them show any signs of perceiving any threats.
    In fact he had to be pulled away by another cop. So instead of rushing to the defense of this 'threatened' cop, his fellow cops hauled his ass out of their before he did something stupid. Apparently the threat wasn't readily visible to them. Could be because it didn't exist.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    The problem is that you assume there should be a "system." If the goal of a private police force is to protect private property, they have resounding success. If the goal of any police force is to prevent otherwise peaceful people from performing certain actions or consuming certain substances, then the result will always be violence and failure.
    Private police forces exist to make money protecting people or people's property who pay them. There is no higher goal of private "police" forces. The goal of police needs to be to protect citizens from other people and help them in the pursuit of justice. This should not be just those who can afford to pay someone who are able to get this. As I said, this was tried in our past, and it failed miserably.
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    Re: Officer "Go **** Yourself" Threatens to kill journalist

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    So in your world threatening to kill somebody is not an illegal act? Really?
    Cops and military are supposed to give a verbal warning whenever possible. It's part of the escalation-of-force procedure, official doctrin.

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