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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    I hope you are not including Social Security benefits in this category. Because those are benefits that have been EARNED.
    Well part of them anyway.

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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Stats like this love to inflate their numbers by including people collecting social security or housing tax credits. Congratulations, every homeowner in America, you're "dependent upon the government."

    Sort of like deployed combat troops were among Romney's 47% who "couldn't be convinced to take responsibility for themselves."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'More Americans than ever before are tapping government benefits. As WSJ reports, nearly half of Americans, 49.5%, lived in a household where at least one person was receiving some type of government benefit.'

    Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits | Zero Hedge

    Aging Americans Boost Share of Population Who Receive Government Benefits - Real Time Economics - WSJ

    This is what bigger governments and massive government spending brings...huge numbers of people sitting on their ass all day because they can.
    from the second article:

    The types of benefits run the gamut, from Social Security to unemployment compensation to food stamps.
    Of course the amount is automatically going to increase because we have Baby Boomers that have and are currently retiring so Social Security also goes up. The article tries to make the claim that 49.5% are somehow freeloaders when FERS and Social Security are things that have been EARNED. Not only that given the economy and jobs we also have a high number of companies that have left more and more people are out of work.

    Now, I'm not excusing that entirely as I have been posting for years that unemployment, SSD and welfare need serious reforms and REAL oversight.

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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    I hope you are not including Social Security benefits in this category. Because those are benefits that have been EARNED.
    Pretty much all benefits are earned. Everyone pays some taxes in this country, and most people who collect benefits from the safety net only do so for a short time. Before and after, and often during that time, they work, contribute to the economy, and pay income tax. There is no lazy underclass in this country, yet people throw that idea out there as if it were gospel. It's not, and the numbers debunk this nonsense time and time again. The only people who obtain benefits without contributing are children, and how insane would we have to be to begrudge them that?
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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Pretty much all benefits are earned. Everyone pays some taxes in this country, and most people who collect benefits from the safety net only do so for a short time. Before and after, and often during that time, they work, contribute to the economy, and pay income tax. There is no lazy underclass in this country, yet people throw that idea out there as if it were gospel. It's not, and the numbers debunk this nonsense time and time again. The only people who obtain benefits without contributing are children, and how insane would we have to be to begrudge them that?
    But ".4% of Americans are leeches" doesn't make as good a headline in right-wing blogs as "half of Americans are leeches."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But ".4% of Americans are leeches" doesn't make as good a headline in right-wing blogs as "half of Americans are leeches."
    I've never understood how a movement can be so chest-thumpingly patriotic and claim to love America with such fervor, and yet carry such passionate hatred for so many Americans.
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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Pretty much all benefits are earned.
    Baloney. Welfare isnt earned. Neither is unemployment benefits from the governemnt. Also SS benefits are unearned once the benefits go above the person's contributions. Thats pretty much parasitism.

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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post

    I don't disagree, the welfare system is inefficient and [B]doesn't encourage people to seek work. It needs a massive overhaul.
    Really?

    "...The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) is a United States federal law considered to be a fundamental shift in both the method and goal of federal cash assistance to the poor. The bill added a workforce development component to welfare legislation, encouraging employment among the poor. The bill was a cornerstone of the Republican Contract with America and was introduced by Rep. E. Clay Shaw, Jr. (R-FL-22). Bill Clinton signed PRWORA into law on August 22, 1996, fulfilling his 1992 campaign promise to "end welfare as we have come to know it".[1]

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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Really?

    "...The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) is a United States federal law considered to be a fundamental shift in both the method and goal of federal cash assistance to the poor. The bill added a workforce development component to welfare legislation, encouraging employment among the poor. The bill was a cornerstone of the Republican Contract with America and was introduced by Rep. E. Clay Shaw, Jr. (R-FL-22). Bill Clinton signed PRWORA into law on August 22, 1996, fulfilling his 1992 campaign promise to "end welfare as we have come to know it".[1]

    Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And the results of that?

    According to this (I'm not sure if the link works), it had no visible effect on the trend.
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    Re: Half Of All Americans Live With Someone Dependent On Government Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Baloney. Welfare isnt earned. Neither is unemployment benefits from the governemnt. Also SS benefits are unearned once the benefits go above the person's contributions. Thats pretty much parasitism.
    Virtually everyone who receives TANF benefits either is working, or has worked, and therefore paid taxes to support such systems. Unemployment benefits are insurance paid for by workers. Everyone who has ever worked a job has paid for social security. So, what's your complaint, exactly?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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