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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    not murdering the innocent
    Who then get forcefully trained and become the guilty.
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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

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    The difference was they weren't just fighting terrorists in Afghanistan. So they couldn't go and just kill wholesale slaughter. Or hunt them down to extinction.
    Fighting terrorism and extremism was their stated reason for being there.
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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Yeah but we have nothing to lose from just constant bombing. No soldier is in danger, terrorists die, companies make money and pay taxes for producing the bombs.

    We need something to justify our terribly bloated military budgets anyway.
    Yeah nothing to lose other than when you blow up villages you only create more extremists. Death and destruction is like fertilizer for Islamic Extremism. For example, if you kill a baker's wife and kids while bombing some village over there, all you have done is turn that baker into a terrorist.
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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Who then get forcefully trained and become the guilty.
    all for killing their trainers and then any one who has become guilty but till then no

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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Yeah nothing to lose other than when you blow up villages you only create more extremists. Death and destruction is like fertilizer for Islamic Extremism. For example, if you kill a baker's wife and kids while bombing some village over there, all you have done is turn that baker into a terrorist.
    And if you kill the baker, his wife, and his kids, there are no more terrorists.
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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    And if you kill the baker, his wife, and his kids, there are no more terrorists.
    till a bunch of people hear about it also kind of evil

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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The Soviets would go out, kill them, then bury them in pig guts as an insult. In response, the Islamists would kidnap Soviet soldiers, mutilate them to look like pigs, and send them back. The Soviets killed as many as 90,000 Mujahedeen, and by some estimates 1.5 million Afghans, yet after 10 years they were no closer to winning the war against Islamists there than they were the day they went in.
    There is a wee bit of difference between going into a country and attempting to conquer the country vs attacking fundamentalist extremists. And hey...if all the accounts are true its REALLY just a small minority of Muslims that are fundamentalist extremists and SURELY the vast majority of Muslims will support an all out offensive against those that are killing Muslim, Jew, and gentile alike...right?

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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Fighting terrorism and extremism was their stated reason for being there.
    Never in the beginning and not until the end when things were going bad for them. Here even Basic Wiki has it.



    Soviet war in Afghanistan.

    Soviet–Afghan relations.

    In 1978, after witnessing India's nuclear test, Smiling Buddha, President Daud Khan initiated a military buildup to counter Pakistan's armed forces and Iranian military influence in Afghan politics. A final pre-war treaty, signed in December 1978, allowed the PDPA to call upon the Soviet Union for military support.



    Soviet war in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: ISIL Beheads American Photojournalist in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Yeah nothing to lose other than when you blow up villages you only create more extremists. Death and destruction is like fertilizer for Islamic Extremism. For example, if you kill a baker's wife and kids while bombing some village over there, all you have done is turn that baker into a terrorist.
    Yet history is so repleat with examples where doing nothing ended up with a body count magnitudes greater than doing something at a particular point of time that arguing for the former cannot be said to actually advocate for peace.

    Don't you think it would be more fruitful to offer some alternate suggestions here instead of just falling back on trite cliches? THis "we create terrorists" mantra gets pretty old after a while, since it shifts the reponsibility for behavior away from the perps and on to us, instead. We did not create the culture that produces all this terrorism. The best we can hope is to influence it and contain it.
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