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Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

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It is very sad to see everybody ignore evidence that doesn't support the story that they want to believe.
I'd be happy to take this evidence into account, but I watched the video again and the only thing I see is a clear altercation at the register. Plus it seems to contradict the 911 call and the owners' own statements.

If you can back up the claims of this blog, though, I'd be happy to consider.
 
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It doesn't show any kind of altercation either. Which would be the whole premise behind shooting him.


The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown.

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack | The Gateway Pundit
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Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

I'd be happy to take this evidence into account, but I watched the video again and the only thing I see is a clear altercation at the register. Plus it seems to contradict the 911 call and the owners' own statements.

If you can back up the claims of this blog, though, I'd be happy to consider.

I don't see a clear altercation either.
 
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The video doesn't show any interaction with police. Undoubtedly there was some, but not in this video.
 
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The title of the article is a bit misleading, but this is interesting.



http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/


They never called to report a theft according to their attorney either.

So the "credible" witness who some of you are hinging everything on - the one who said the cop shot Brown as he was putting his hands up in surrender - mustn't be so credible, since he said they DID rob the store.

Lawyer: Friend confirms that he and shooting victim had robbed convenience store - WTOP.com

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) -- The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.

That word comes from the attorney for Dorian Johnson, speaking to MSNBC. Police in Ferguson had earlier announced that Brown was suspected of taking cigars from the convenience store in what was described as a "strong-arm robbery."



The only ones whose faces are getting anything blown up on aren't the police.
 
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So the "credible" witness who some of you are hinging everything on - the one who said the cop shot Brown as he was putting his hands up in surrender - mustn't be so credible, since he said they DID rob the store.

Lawyer: Friend confirms that he and shooting victim had robbed convenience store - WTOP.com

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) -- The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.

That word comes from the attorney for Dorian Johnson, speaking to MSNBC. Police in Ferguson had earlier announced that Brown was suspected of taking cigars from the convenience store in what was described as a "strong-arm robbery."



The only ones whose faces are getting anything blown up on aren't the police.

Somebody is lying about something. It's strange to me that all the "libertarians" trust the government here.
 
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It doesn't show any kind of altercation either. Which would be the whole premise behind shooting him.

What altercation are you referring to? The Brown/cop altercation, or the one where Brown kindly adjusted the shopkeepers collar?
 
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I'll ask again, can you point to where he paid for what he allegedly bought and got the receipt in the video?

Can you point to where he didn't?

Like I said multiple times. We should reserve judgement until all the evdence comes out.
 
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So the "credible" witness who some of you are hinging everything on - the one who said the cop shot Brown as he was putting his hands up in surrender - mustn't be so credible, since he said they DID rob the store.

Lawyer: Friend confirms that he and shooting victim had robbed convenience store - WTOP.com

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) -- The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.

That word comes from the attorney for Dorian Johnson, speaking to MSNBC. Police in Ferguson had earlier announced that Brown was suspected of taking cigars from the convenience store in what was described as a "strong-arm robbery."



The only ones whose faces are getting anything blown up on aren't the police.

Yes well... the damage control crews are out making up information on blogs which then make it to sites like DP. It's probably happening on both sides which is why we need to wait for the actual facts to come out and be critical of all blogs on this issue - regardless of which side of the issue they take.
 
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Can you point to where he didn't?
Sorry proving negatives is against my religion.

Like I said multiple times. We should reserve judgement until all the evdence comes out.
I'm not judging, I'm simply stating a fact - there is nothing in the video that shows he paid for what he took. The other fact is, the police report identifies Brown as committing strong arm robbery for Swisher Sweets. :shrug:

That in no way means he deserved to be shot - it simply means the video did not show he paid, and the police report identifies "strong armed robbery". Mmmkay?
 
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Somebody is lying about something. It's strange to me that all the "libertarians" trust the government here.

The police aren't the "government". And there are no facts that anyone knows about the shooting other than a teenager is dead, and a policeman shot him.

Okay, then go ahead and admit that the kid whose "eyewitness" account is a liar, if you believe this blog to be true.
 
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The title of the article is a bit misleading, but this is interesting.



– Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Victim Blows Up In Their Face (VIDEO)


They never called to report a theft according to their attorney either.

Watched the video a few times, read the police report Ockham provided, and from what I can see the police report account seems to more closely resemble what can be told from the video. I would noit want to swear either way as the video is not clear.
 
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Somebody is lying about something. It's strange to me that all the "libertarians" trust the government here.

I was thinking the same thing the other day. They always preach that you can't trust government and now they are trusting their word.

OH THE IRONY
 
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I don't see a clear altercation either.
0:17-0:20, Brown reaches very far over the counter as if to grab something and then jerks backwards, as if the cashier swatted at him or something. Frankly, it looks like he went for the cash register. There is nothing in the video proving he paid, and he definitely took merchandise with him, against the wishes of the cashier.

I don't understand...what's the explanation for the cashier coming after him if he didn't take something?

Also this blog's cut of the video leaves out the actual altercation at the end near the door.
 
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Yes well... the damage control crews are out making up information on blogs which then make it to sites like DP. It's probably happening on both sides which is why we need to wait for the actual facts to come out and be critical of all blogs on this issue - regardless of which side of the issue they take.

Of course. It's absurd from both sides.

I only have the say-so of the kid he was with that night (the witness who everyone was raving about the other day) who insists, through his mouthpiece, that they robbed the store. If they didn't, he lied. If they did, the blog is wrong.
 
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The video doesn't show any interaction with police. Undoubtedly there was some, but not in this video.

Do you think the occifer broke his own eye socket?
 
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I was thinking the same thing the other day. They always preach that you can't trust government and now they are trusting their word.

OH THE IRONY

They preach that? Interesting. I've been a Libertarian for years, and never preached that you can't trust the government. I preach small government. Where are these Libertarians you hang out with?

I don't take the word of the police. I take the word of the friend of Brown's who says they robbed the store. See how interesting and not ironic that is? Or maybe I should trust this blog, believe the kid is a liar, and then question his statements that Brown was shot in cold blood.
 
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I was thinking the same thing the other day. They always preach that you can't trust government and now they are trusting their word.

OH THE IRONY

Because Libertarians are all about anarchy and must be 100% anti-government regardless of the situation... right? :roll:
 
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It is very sad to see everybody ignore evidence that doesn't support the story that they want to believe.

Yeah, isn't it. Hope you were looking in a mirror when you said that.
 
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Do you think the occifer broke his own eye socket?

AS best I can tell that is only being reported now by Gateway Pundit, which is just about as unreliable a source as can be. Like with everything else, I would recommend waiting till a real news outlet picks up on it. Until then, just file it like this story, speculation.
 
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The police aren't the "government".

So many gems today...

The judicial branch checks the executive branch through the courts. Police officers and state or federal prosecutors are all part of the executive branch, and the judicial branch is responsible for overseeing their behavior and protecting citizens from unjust prosecution.

Read more : How Does the Executive Branch of Government Work? | eHow

Overview of the CJ System

Chapter 1 in Crime and Justice in American Society Shelden et al. said:
The executive branch is comprised of public officials such as presidents, governors, mayors, etc. These officials determine and implement official responses to new laws. They determine the agencies and personnel who will be responsible for enforcing laws. The police fall under the administrative control of this branch.

Criminal Justice in the U.S. - Fun Facts, Questions, Answers, Information

Which branch of the US government do police officers fall under? said:
Executive branch. The legislative branch makes the laws, the judicial branch interprets the laws, and the executive branch enforces the laws. Although you may be tempted to say judicial, that branch only deals with the courts.
 
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It's hard to see the exchange because of the scratch off tickets or whatever that is in the way. Nothing in the video makes me necessarily believe that anything illegal took place. There's no sound, so we don't know what was said.

If this video is proof of a robbery, I'm having a hell of a time buying it.

Yeah, because everybody knows it's normal to choke a clerk every time you visit the market. Right?:lamo
 
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The problem is, the video shows Michael Brown at the register, paying for the cigars.

Bwahahhahah:lamo:roll:
 
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What on Earth is all of that nonsense?

The police are under the executive branch of government. They are the government. Are you seriously going to argue that fact? What's next? Pepper spray is just a food condiment and someone telling you that they'll "shell you" if you don't move is a pick up line?
 
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