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Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

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rocket88 said:
The title of the article is a bit misleading, but this is interesting.



– Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Victim Blows Up In Their Face (VIDEO)


They never called to report a theft according to their attorney either.
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Everyone would be wise to reserve judgment until all the evidence has been carefully assessed. Outlets like the lefty propaganda rag in this OP have little credibility and no apparent aim other than to inflame the situation.:roll:
 
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rocket88 said:
It is very sad to see everybody ignore evidence that doesn't support the story that they want to believe.
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I will remember this post.
 
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Krhazy said:
0:17-0:20, Brown reaches very far over the counter as if to grab something and then jerks backwards, as if the cashier swatted at him or something. Frankly, it looks like he went for the cash register. There is nothing in the video proving he paid, and he definitely took merchandise with him, against the wishes of the cashier.

I don't understand...what's the explanation for the cashier coming after him if he didn't take something?

Also this blog's cut of the video leaves out the actual altercation at the end near the door.
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I am always suspicious when they edit things out, It might just be creative license.
 
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tres borrachos said:
What on Earth is all of that nonsense?
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Lets break down your question. You correctly identified it as nonsense. You were correct. It is just nonsense. I guess the answer would be it is nonsensically nonsense.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
You may want to take a breath and back away from her for a bit. She has said nothing that is any different from what she has stood for on this board since she became a member.

She is for smaller federal government and having the states and local government be the ones that hold the power. A reasonable position that I also hold.

The police involved in this incident are sworn officers of the County and City, which are granted their power by State Law. The federal government has nothing to do with this, and therefore the Executive Branch - at either the Federal or State level - has nothing to do with it. In fact, it is the Legislative Branch of the State that grants them their power at the local level through legislating a State Law that does so.

You are wrong on so many levels that I suggest again, that you take a breath and back away from her a bit.
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Hatuey doesn't care about facts. We established that earlier.
 
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tres borrachos said:
I've never met a Libertarian who thinks there shouldn't be police. Never once.
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Well, I am a libertarian and I don't think there should be police. I also think there shouldn't be a reason to need a key for my car or a key for my house. I also think that someone from the govt should show up at my door every morning with a birthday cake and ballons and a bottle of Irish whiskey and sing to me and then do my laundry. Okay, maybe I don't believe all that stuff, except for the whiskey part.
 
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rocket88 said:
Not relevant. I followed the rules of the forum. If you can't live with that, it's not my problem.
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My dad told me once, the worst sport is a sore winner. Rocket screwed up and believed a blog. I think it is time to kinda move on or try to continue with further discussion.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
You catch on quick for a new guy.
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Thanks, I try. Doesn't take a genius tho.
 
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Redress said:
Your article's source is the Gateway Pundit story, not some independent confirmation, so this is still speculative.
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The specific injury to the face is still speculative.
That he was injured and required hospitalization is not. That is unless you are going to suggest the Chief isn't a reliable source.
 
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Excon said:
The specific injury to the face is still speculative.
That he was injured and required hospitalization is not. That is unless you are going to suggest the Chief isn't a reliable source.
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And I never claimed the injury to his face was anything but fact. So what exactly was your point?
 
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Redress said:
And I never claimed the injury to his face was anything but fact. So what exactly was your point?
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I never said you did or didn't claim such. :shrug:

But the point was a factual continuation of the subject, not a non-factual continuation of the subject
He was injured and required hospitalization.​
Which should have been obvious to you.
 
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People are so impatient as to not wait a week or two or maybe a month so that we can review the whole case and then have a TRUE intellectual discussion on the subject instead of a "Hahaha suckers you suck bias, zomg lies, conservative/liberal hacks!, pray for Mike Brown's family!" thread.

No side is right just yet, we need more evidence.
 
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Luftwaffe said:
People are so impatient as to not wait a week or two or maybe a month so that we can review the whole case and then have a TRUE intellectual discussion on the subject instead of a "Hahaha suckers you suck bias, zomg lies, conservative/liberal hacks!, pray for Mike Brown's family!" thread.

No side is right just yet, we need more evidence.
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Odd. We know enough of the evidence as it is to draw conclusions.
What do you think will change about that?

The only accounts that suggested the Officer was in the wrong sounded contrived, were unbelievable, and even proven false in part.
Credibility out the door.
All it has done and will continue to do, is fall apart.

What do you think will change about that?

As it has already been falling apart, there is nothing that could come along and shore up crap that has already fallen apart.
It just doesn't work that way.


Example: If the following is true, and there is no reason to suspect it isn't, this is just another example of the false story being torn asunder.
A radio station had just announced this..
breaking-wilson-justified.jpg
 
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NonoBadDog said:
Well, I am a libertarian and I don't think there should be police. I also think there shouldn't be a reason to need a key for my car or a key for my house. I also think that someone from the govt should show up at my door every morning with a birthday cake and ballons and a bottle of Irish whiskey and sing to me and then do my laundry. Okay, maybe I don't believe all that stuff, except for the whiskey part.
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Someone from the government bearing whiskey? How about Harry Reid?:lol:
 
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Excon said:
Odd. We know enough of the evidence as it is to draw conclusions.
What do you think will change about that?

The only accounts that suggested the Officer was in the wrong sounded contrived, were unbelievable, and even proven false in part.
Credibility out the door.
All it has done and will continue to do, is fall apart.

What do you think will change about that?

As it has already been falling apart, there is nothing that could come along and shore up crap that has already fallen apart.
It just doesn't work that way.


Example: If the following is true, and there is no reason to suspect it isn't, this is just another example of the false story being torn asunder.
A radio station had just announced this..
breaking-wilson-justified.jpg
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OK, wait a second. My blog source was horribly wrong because everyone could see from the source that it was biased.

BUT - apparently a facebook post from a radio station called "The Viper" which was posted by a blog called "The Conservative Treehouse" is totally correct...sounds like yet another day of different rules for conservatives.
 
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rocket88 said:
OK, wait a second. My blog source was horribly wrong because everyone could see from the source that it was biased.

BUT - apparently a facebook post from a radio station called "The Viper" which was posted by a blog called "The Conservative Treehouse" is totally correct...sounds like yet another day of different rules for conservatives.
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Well, I've noticed that around here for some time. Ironic. Has nothing to do with your post, but...
 
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rocket88 said:
OK, wait a second. My blog source was horribly wrong because everyone could see from the source that it was biased.

BUT - apparently a facebook post from a radio station called "The Viper" which was posted by a blog called "The Conservative Treehouse" is totally correct...sounds like yet another day of different rules for conservatives.
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You are not making any sense.
Did I say it was totally correct?

Or perhaps did I say the following?

"If the following is true, ..."​

Would you like me to tell you which one is in quotes for a reason?
 
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Excon said:
You are not making any sense.
Did I say it was totally correct?

Or perhaps did I say the following?

"If the following is true, ..."​

Would you like me to tell you which one is in quotes for a reason?
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Well, let's take your whole quote:

Excon said:
Example: If the following is true, and there is no reason to suspect it isn't, this is just another example of the false story being torn asunder.
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So there's no reason to suspect it isn't and it "tears asunder" the "false story." Now you're going to play semantics and say you didn't say it was correct? How exactly does it tear anything asunder if it's not?
 
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humbolt said:
Well, I've noticed that around here for some time. Ironic. Has nothing to do with your post, but...
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It has a lot to do with my source being wrong because it's a blog. Why would we believe this blog, and not another?

Simple, the rule that is played by is that only liberals need absolute proof.
 
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rocket88 said:
It has a lot to do with my source being wrong because it's a blog. Why would we believe this blog, and not another?

Simple, the rule that is played by is that only liberals need absolute proof.
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I tend to discount blogs of any kind as evidence of anything other than opinion. That's just my view. In instances like Ferguson, nothing short of corroborated evidence will be satisfactory because of the nature of the event and the reaction to it. My response was not directed toward that particular point, but I can understand your frustration. The simple truth is that everybody here is partisan in spite of adamant objections to the contrary, and everyone seeks advantage - legitimate or not. Naturally, I don't because I'm better than that. Honest. It's everybody else.
 
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