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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Maybe not the laying face down part, but the wound in the top of the head was there for sure.
    I assume the officer has an automatic weapon. If so, is it not feasible that several shots were fired in a matter of seconds and the head wound you refer to may have been the last wound as Brown is falling forward onto the ground - not surrendering or giving up, but collapsing forward in death?
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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I am not arguing that he didn't have a wound on the top of his head. I am arguing that Buck Ewer is making assumptions about the wound that Baden never stated and stating them as fact.
    Those like BE who claim this was a broad daylight, multiple witness gangland style execution of Brown are those who have a built in anti-police bias that clouds any semblance of balance and/or common sense they may possess.
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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I assume the officer has an automatic weapon.
    If so, is it not feasible that several shots were fired in a matter of seconds and the head wound you refer to may have been the last wound as Brown is falling forward onto the ground - not surrendering or giving up, but collapsing forward in death?
    Police side arms primarily are semi-automatic only unless a revolver was used. One shot per squeeze of the trigger. I don't believe SWAT or tactical teams even use automatic weapons domestically - auto are military only.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, CJ.

    Excellent thought-provoking post, CJ! Many people are wondering why AG Holder saw fit to personally travel to Ferguson, since dozens of blacks are being shot and murdered every day in Chicago, and he hasn't intervened there. Was he intending to put on riot gear and help get things under control, or is he there to plan strategy because things aren't working out like they thought it would? The truth will eventually be known, of course, but cowardly looting and destroying a city by burning buildings down sure makes an erroneous statement to the world that America is not too much different than a backward third world hellhole, and that is not true, because the very poorest among us are considered wealthy by many people around the world.

    5000 years of history has shown us that any civilization that sets up a government that promises a free lunch to the lazy will be a government that will go down the tube. Still, every time a person or group who shows up making those promises will attract the free lunch crowd who will run for that bandwagon. Human nature? Perhaps for some, but not the majority who have self respect. With our debt level approaching $20 trillion dollars, we are in as bad a mess as we haven't seen since 1929, IMO, and we know how that turned out!
    Good morning Lady P - did you get the hot, humid weather I promised you??

    As for Holder, there's no political gains to be made by publicizing the terrible black on black murder and crime taking place in Chicago, as an example. You can't race bait and drum up racial divisions when the two sides in the war are both black.
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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Police side arms primarily are semi-automatic only unless a revolver was used. One shot per squeeze of the trigger. I don't believe SWAT or tactical teams even use automatic weapons domestically - auto are military only.
    Thanks for that clarification.

    Does your additional information make it impossible or still plausible for my conjecture to be reasonable and perhaps true?
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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Thanks for that clarification.

    Does your additional information make it impossible or still plausible for my conjecture to be reasonable and perhaps true?
    Certainly still plausible.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I assume the officer has an automatic weapon. If so, is it not feasible that several shots were fired in a matter of seconds and the head wound you refer to may have been the last wound as Brown is falling forward onto the ground - not surrendering or giving up, but collapsing forward in death?
    That may be. I don't know what type of weapon was used.

    At any rate if the officer is charged, the onus is on the state to prove that it wasn't justified. Which from what I've seen would be very difficult to do.


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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was laying face down on the street when the last and fatal shot was fired into the top of his head.
    How else can a bullet enter the top of a 6'5" man's head and lodge in the front of his brain?
    That last shot made it murder.
    No he was not. No witness made any such claim and had it happened that way at least one witness would have taken note.

    A person who breaks into a run toward someone else will typically lean forward and even lower their head which serves to present the top of the head to the person they are running toward. Obviously no one can prove YET that this is what happened but you asked how CAN it happen and that is one way. Your explanation that he had to be laying down is simply false. Whether you like it or not the bullet wounds are consistent with the officers supposed explanation and not all the other explanations.

    We still do not know all of the evidence which has been gathered in this case but so far what is known to the public does not support an accusation of murder in fact so far what is known makes it justifiable self defense.

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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That may be. I don't know what type of weapon was used.

    At any rate if the officer is charged, the onus is on the state to prove that it wasn't justified. Which from what I've seen would be very difficult to do.
    There are some who are claiming that the grand jury was struck so quickly because the prosecutor in charge doesn't expect charges to come out of the process. Some are now claiming a Special Prosecutor should have been appointed because the one now in charge has relatives working now or previously for the police, and has not aggressively pursued other incidents that may have displayed police animosity towards the black community in Ferguson.
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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

    If threads like these do not reflect upon the sorry state of identity politics, nothing ever will. If this were a case involving a white guy in a similar circumstance many would be singing a different tune, or wouldn't be singing at all because it wouldn't have been newsworthy. It is only because the cop was white and the dead man black that his is being discussed the way it is, since for the racialists here, the only thing that matters to them is the race of the people involved and not what actually happened. So severely are they crippled by their racialism that are quite willing to promote to a lie when their very eyes could tell them the truth if they were not so prejudiced by their preconceptions.

    When I was a kid and read the story of The Emperor's new clothes, I wonndered how anybody could possibly be so foolish as to think the Emperor was anything but naked. Threads like these explain the phenomenon like no other.

    The goal of the civil rights movement was to create a society where all people were judged on the quality of their character instead of the color of their skin. The racialsists of this forum have made a mockery of such goals, as the only thing that does matter to them is the color of the skin instead of the quality of character. How sad.
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