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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Yes, not only should we wait for confirmation before we draw conclusions, but we should note that he was not shot for stealing cigars to begin with.

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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by csense View Post
    They don't contradict each other. When Officer Wilson initially encountered Brown and his friend walking in the middle of the street and interfering with traffic, he didn't know about the robbery. Only later, when Wilson pulled forward to observe them, did he receive the call about the robbery.
    IF that was believable, what prompt him to leave the "sick call"? That was what Chief Jackson said.

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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Oh come on Rocket, you don't really believe that's what happened, do you?
    No, but then I really don't see where this comes in to play. Yeah, maybe he stole some cigars. Maybe not. At any rate, it shouldn't make a difference in why he would have gotten shot and killed.


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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    IF that was believable, what prompt him to leave the "sick call"? That was what Chief Jackson said.
    It's certainly believable and doesn't contradict anything we know so far, but as far as the sick call, I don't have a clue. Maybe he wanted to handle the situation off the record....there are some good people out there you know. Maybe he was really sick. Your guess is as good as mine....

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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, but then I really don't see where this comes in to play. Yeah, maybe he stole some cigars. Maybe not. At any rate, it shouldn't make a difference in why he would have gotten shot and killed.
    It doesn't make a difference as far as him getting shot. He didn't get shot for stealing. But you know enough about what goes in courts, and it certainly isn't a good reflection on his state of mind that night, and his character, and pokes a lot of holes in the notion of "he was a good boy, wouldn't do a thing wrong, this cop is a monster".

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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, but then I really don't see where this comes in to play. Yeah, maybe he stole some cigars. Maybe not. At any rate, it shouldn't make a difference in why he would have gotten shot and killed.
    That's a very simplistic way of looking at things. It certainly would have affected how Brown perceived the Police Officer, and quite likely, how the Police Officer perceived Brown. Initially, Brown and his friend were merely a nuisance in the road and then they became robbery suspects. That completely changes the dynamics of the interaction between them. Maybe Brown couldn't afford to get into any more trouble, for whatever reason. To suggest that the robbery is irrelevant to what happened afterward is simply nave.

    You might as well just come out and say, if the autopsy don't fit, you must acquit, because that's what such naivete amounts to...

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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by csense View Post
    That's a very simplistic way of looking at things. It certainly would have affected how Brown perceived the Police Officer, and quite likely, how the Police Officer perceived Brown. Initially, Brown and his friend were merely a nuisance in the road and then they became robbery suspects. That completely changes the dynamics of the interaction between them. Maybe Brown couldn't afford to get into any more trouble, for whatever reason. To suggest that the robbery is irrelevant to what happened afterward is simply nave.

    You might as well just come out and say, if the autopsy don't fit, you must acquit, because that's what such naivete amounts to...
    I would say that if the autopsy don't fit you must acquit. If the evidence doesn't fit the cop's story, then that would make a big difference in the case.


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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Has anybody considered that his friend wasn't lying at all. That they did rob the store, and that he was surrendering? It's not out of the question, I don't think.


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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I would say that if the autopsy don't fit you must acquit. If the evidence doesn't fit the cop's story, then that would make a big difference in the case.
    This isn't the official autopsy and the doctor doing it is not the coroner.

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    Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I would say that if the autopsy don't fit you must acquit. If the evidence doesn't fit the cop's story, then that would make a big difference in the case.
    Ya, well, bully on me for suggesting an idiom that you were likely to run with. Where the hell did you go to school, at Our Lady of childlike understanding?

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