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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    When we review history, I think that there is a great possibility that the violence is being created by provocateurs and informants in order to justify a greater use of suppression by the police. The chaos (and gassing, pepper spray) is deliberately created in order to persuade people to cower before the forces and accept the suppression being heaped upon them and stay at home.

    With every report of a shooting, it is just a way of telling the people within the community that they should stay home or they will get hurt. The same trip happened with how the Occupy Wall Street was dealt with.

    Firstly; to know where I am coming from, I would need to explain why I hold such a dim view of American justice or Democracy.

    And then I need only recall recent history at least what has occurred during my lifetime.

    The most paramount instance of where my disrespect towards the "System" began was in the 1960's.

    I recall "Operation Northwoods".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

    Yes, it can be said that the action did not take place, but the very fact that an attack upon American citizens could be even mentioned at the highest echelons of the American government and not leave everyone aghast with such ideas, speaks for itself. The people having such conversations were not charged or castigated but rather promoted.

    One would of thought that any government representative who even began to suggest such an action would of been taken out back and shot. (At least get a mental examination.) But this memorandum or suggestion was actually moved up the chain of command for further consideration at the White House.

    On the very first day of the Occupation of Wall Street, we saw infiltration by the police. We were leaving Zucotti Park and were stopped in traffic by the rear of the park. We saw an unmarked van open, in the front seat were two uniformed police and out of the back came two men dressed as occupiers wearing backpacks, sweatshirts, and jeans. They walked into Zucotti Park and became part of the crowd.
    http://owsnews.org/part-i-infiltrati...read-in-occupy


    How many agents or infiltrators can we expect to see inside a movement? One of the most notorious “police riots” was at the 1968 Democratic National Convention. Independent journalist Yasha Levine writes: “During the 1968 protests of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, which drew about 10,000 protesters and was brutally crushed by the police, 1 out of 6 protesters was a federal undercover agent.
    Provocateur Porn: How Many Spooks Does It Take To Infiltrate A Protest Movement? - By Yasha Levine - The eXiled
    Infiltration of Political Movements Is the Norm in America - Truthdig

    The Man Who Armed the Panthers
    The man who armed the Black Panthers turns out to have been an FBI informant. FBI files, uncovered by journalist Seth Rosenfeld, reveal that Richard Aoki, a prominent activist in the 1960s who was the first to supply the Black Panthers with guns and weapons training, was also an undercover FBI source. A mysterious character who always sported sunglasses, even at night, Aoki was a militant leader of the Third World Strike and an activist with the Asian American Political Alliance at UC Berkeley.
    (YouTube Video)
    Activist Richard Aoki named as informant - SFGate

    I could go on and on but I don't want to bore you all. I have studied this topic extremely closely for a lifetime and have a huge database of historical context.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    The point I was making is that it appears or seems to be that when non-white people find the need to utilize social programs, they are shamed within the media and called lazy.

    And yet, we all know that the major reason why such social programs were targeted towards the non-white community was because the Ruling Class know and recognize that there is an underlying theme of racism across the country and the programs are used to sort of compensate in lieu of this social fact.

    White People are more affluent than non-whites. In most cases, the only time they ever used a government funded social program is when they were unemployed.

    And I pointed out that white unemployed people who utilize social programs are not having to tell the world that they are on government assistance via unemployment cheques. When it comes to food stamp use, the whole world knows and it is very humiliating for the folks using the program.

    Especially when the program was geared towards trying to compensate for the racism across American society.

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    Wow, so you dont see a difference between food stamps and unemployment? You also do realize that saying only minorities receive food stamps is highly racist right? The program was geared towards feeding starving people.... I will be the first to say I have major problems with the food stamp program, but my issues are not with the color of the people that receive them, but with the character of some of those who do. I can honestly say this is probably the first post I've seen on this forum that would probably be better suited on stormfront.

    I honestly hope you don't believe minorities are incapable of working and have to be feed by taxpayers and while doing so taxpayers give them ebt cards that they have to pay with in public to shame them....wow.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Hi! DrPepper

    Of course I know that it is not only black people who receive Food Stamps.

    I was attempting to explain how the visible minority communities feel like when using Food Stamps. It is a much more shameful experience than those receiving Unemployment money, as an example. And there are many other examples.

    And that the visible minority communities feel it to be a painful experience when recognizing that one of the main reasons for government programs being specifically addressed to these communities was in an attempt towards easing the pain of racism (the racial inequality) which is prevalent within America.

    As to your comment about StormFront, ... that is always the only defense that Pro-Israel supporters have to justify their position or views. Calling somebody an Anti-Semite is like calling somebody a child molester.

    When an Pro-Israeli commenter stoops to these ultra low tactics, I heartily laugh and chuckle aloud because I realize that they are simply stating the only real defense for supporting Israel's actions in Palestine, and which is/are meaningless.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Hi! Excon

    Whether there was a delay of a day or a few hours while the officer was receiving medical attention, the officer had to complete an incident report before he was allowed to go home at the end of the day.

    So, where is that report?

    It is this original report which the protesters want to see today. Not in court months down the road. Not after the officer has been given ample opportunity to rewrite the incident report.

    And the protesters want to view this report today.

    And there is no excuse for not making it public unless it might be allowed to be changed or altered as more witnesses came forward which might question this original report. Because of the Police Blue Line, there is a possibility that the officer is being allowed to change his story as the evidence is being collected from witnesses and video.

    And, I think or suspect this is just what is happening.

    The first original statement must of claimed that the policeman was not aware of the robbery and the chief knew this and said so.

    But, perhaps because the chief did not realize that the officer's statement had since changed since the State took control (and the chief was out of the loop) that the statement will now claim is that the officer was aware of the robbery.

    This is what I think happened.

    There is another issue which I find critical ....

    The police are always found in TV Land encouraging the public to rat-out a neighbor and praise the informants endlessly with claims that they are doing the proper and moral thing .... while at the same time the police themselves have nothing but disgust towards anyone within their own ranks from ratting-out somebody from the Blue Line.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    So, where is that report?
    Wtf are you talking about?
    Are you incapable of following or understanding what was said and replied to?
    You claimed it had to be made immediately, and you are just wrong when there are extenuating circumstances like having to be hospitalized for the injuries you received.



    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    That is the report which the protesters want to see today.
    They also want his death.
    They also want him arrested and charged with murder and conviction.

    I care not what these idiots what.
    They can wait their happy ass until it is released.


    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    And there is no excuse for not making it public unless it might be allowed to changed as more witnesses came forward which might question this original report.

    Wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    And, I think or suspect this is just what is happening.
    I am sure you do.
    Just as I am sure your life here under the guise of "calm" will be very limited.


    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    The first original statement must of claimed that the policeman was not aware of the robbery and the chief knew this and said so.

    No.
    The Chief's made his statement and as he continued to verbalize what happened, it was clarified.


    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    This is what I think happened.
    Convoluted nonsense.
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

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    What's your point?

    Fill us in.

    I'm sure that you have something that you would like to say, and you need to just stop beating around the bush, and go ahead and say it.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    All violence, demonstrating looting and rioting could end immediately ... All that need be done is to charge the murderer with murder.

    Yeah it's that simple.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    All violence, demonstrating looting and rioting could end immediately ...
    All that need be done is to charge the murderer with murder.


    Yeah it's that simple.



    I'm sure that eventually this case will be settled in court, but I do believe that any man who puts 6-bullets in an 18-year old man with his hands up has a problem.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I'm sure that eventually this case will be settled in court, but I do believe that any man who puts 6-bullets in an 18-year old man with his hands up has a problem.
    As that isn't what happened, the only problem here is your understanding of what did.
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    All violence, demonstrating looting and rioting could end immediately ... All that need be done is to charge the murderer with murder.

    Yeah it's that simple.
    There is no murderer here.
    So if he was charged with such just to appease a bunch of idiotic animals, it would be a travesty of justice.


    What you want to do is falsely charge the person, and that is just wrong.

    What you suggest is no better than what these animals suggest.


    “You’ve Killed Our Kind 4 Years But Won’t Sacrifice 1 Cop For Justice & To Save A Community & These Businesses”

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