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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    There are 750,000 sworn police officers in the US. What do you think the rate of corruption is? Can you back it up?
    Can I back it up? Right. The fox guarding the henhouse come to mind? Can you back up your "single instances"?

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

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    Can I back it up? Right. The fox guarding the henhouse come to mind? Can you back up your "single instances"?
    You want me to prove a negative? Sorry, the burden of proof is on you.
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You want me to prove a negative? Sorry, the burden of proof is on you.
    And why would the burden of proof be on me? The proof is alive and well in Ferguson. And as I said before, do yourself a favor and check out Police Abuse videos on YouTube. And Open carry illegal stops. There are very many. Choice is yours. Keep your head in the sand or shake it out of your eyes.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post

    That the White Folks get unemployment cheques and nobody knows they are unemployed, but the Black Folks get food stamps and everybody knows it at all retail outlets in the community.

    I have never found an instance in history where the Ruling Class ever gave anything to the Lower Class without the threat of violence.

    For sure, I know of no military dictatorship that has been overthrown by nonviolent action.


    Matin Luther King and Ghandi were doing the same thing that Roosevelt did in In 1932/1933 in order to quell the violence and the plot to take over the White House.

    The final and most pertinent threat that Martin Luther King gave to the Ruling Class was that he was forming a union for the garbage workers. This was the largest threat ever faced by the Ruling Class since the end of WWII.

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    To start off... unemployment checks come when you lose your job. Food stamps come when you can no longer feed your family. Neither depends on color.

    If the biggest threat MLK had in your opinion was a garbage union then your either delusional or badly in need of a history lesson.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    you understand that he doesnt have to make a statement, right?

    i dont know if he did....or didnt

    but i do know he doesnt have to.....

    then it is up to the state to determine if enough evidence exists to charge

    that is what the investigation is ascertaining
    When writing my earlier comments, I did not want to use unfamiliar terminology.

    When the officer fired his gun, he had to write an incident report and state why he used his weapon. This report would of been date and time stamped.

    It is just normal procedure.

    I am not thinking about what the ongoing investigations will show, I am thinking that the public is asking to see the report which must be completed before the officer left the police station and allowed to go home on the night of the shooting.

    It is mandatory that the officer complete an incident report within hours of the shooting. The officer has no choice but to complete the report. It is the law.

    I feel that the reason the statement has not been made public might well be because in order for the Blue Line to be effective within the police department, they needed to know the video and witness statements which were yet to be reviewed or interviewed.

    I think that the officers statement will not hold any credibility now because the Blue Line interfered in the process right from the beginning.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    When writing my earlier comments, I did not want to use unfamiliar terminology.

    When the officer fired his gun, he had to write an incident report and state why he used his weapon. This report would of been date and time stamped.

    It is just normal procedure.

    I am not thinking about what the ongoing investigations will show, I am thinking that the public is asking to see the report which must be completed before the officer left the police station and allowed to go home on the night of the shooting.

    It is mandatory that the officer complete an incident report within hours of the shooting. The officer has no choice but to complete the report. It is the law.

    I feel that the reason the statement has not been made public might well be because in order for the Blue Line to be effective within the police department, they needed to know the video and witness statements which were yet to be reviewed or interviewed.

    I think that the officers statement will not hold any credibility now because the Blue Line interfered in the process right from the beginning.

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    The Officer received injury to his face that required hospitalization.

    I think any such report came after that.
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by DrPepper View Post
    To start off... unemployment checks come when you lose your job. Food stamps come when you can no longer feed your family. Neither depends on color.

    If the biggest threat MLK had in your opinion was a garbage union then your either delusional or badly in need of a history lesson.
    The point I was making is that it appears or seems to be that when non-white people find the need to utilize social programs, they are shamed within the media and called lazy.

    And yet, we all know that the major reason why such social programs were targeted towards the non-white community was because the Ruling Class know and recognize that there is an underlying theme of racism across the country and the programs are used to sort of compensate in lieu of this social fact.

    White People are more affluent than non-whites. In most cases, the only time they ever used a government funded social program is when they were unemployed.

    And I pointed out that white unemployed people who utilize social programs are not having to tell the world that they are on government assistance via unemployment cheques. When it comes to food stamp use, the whole world knows and it is very humiliating for the folks using the program.

    Especially when the program was geared towards trying to compensate for the racism across American society.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    The point I was making is that it appears or seems to be that when non-white people find the need to utilize social programs, they are shamed within the media and called lazy.

    And yet, we all know that the major reason why such social programs were targeted towards the non-white community was because the Ruling Class know and recognize that there is an underlying theme of racism across the country and the programs are used to sort of compensate in lieu of this social fact.

    White People are more affluent than non-whites. In most cases, the only time they ever used a government funded social program is when they were unemployed.

    And I pointed out that white unemployed people who utilize social programs are not having to tell the world that they are on government assistance via unemployment cheques. When it comes to food stamp use, the whole world knows and it is very humiliating for the folks using the program.

    Especially when the program was geared towards trying to compensate for the racism across American society.

    Calm
    "When it comes to food stamp use, the whole world knows and it is very humiliating for the folks using the program"? Really? If that is the case we better stop offending the illegals coming across the borders, and NOT give them any food stamps. I am all for that idea.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The Officer received injury to his face that required hospitalization.

    I think any such report came after that.
    No!

    No copy of this written report has been made public as yet.

    All we have is the chief making statements and/or friends of the policeman calling into TV stations attempting to give a version of events.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    No!
    Yes.
    His hospitalization and treatment come first, the report after.
    It may have been the next day or even the day after, but his hospitalization and treatment came first.


    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    No copy of this written report has been made public as yet.
    And?
    I never claimed it had.


    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    All we have is the chief making statements and/or friends of the policeman calling into TV stations attempting to give a version of events.
    Matters not to what I said.
    While his hospitalization is a claim released by the Chief, it is highly unlikely it isn't true. And such hospitalization and treatment would come first. Any report would have been made after that.
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