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    National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    I think that bringing in the National Guard will prevent looting and gasoline bombs.

    Everyone has a certain sense of "Admirable Respect" for military servicemen and feel that they are sort of "Owed" respect because of their service. So they will not be challenged by the community.

    The protests might very well continue but with the vandals choosing not to participate so openly.

    The enactment of Martial Law might encourage additional protests across the country in an effort to shame the powerful into enacting change to the System.

    I watched a great interview on MSNBC and where some young people spoke in historical terms.

    They mentioned that the Ruling Class easily recognize that there is racism within America. In order to sort of compensate or to make amends, the Ruling Class funnels funding into these communities via Food Stamps, Welfare and whatever.

    But then, the Ruling Class constantly shame these same communities by calling they lazy and undeserving of such assistance or compensation.

    That the White Folks get unemployment cheques and nobody knows they are unemployed, but the Black Folks get food stamps and everybody knows it at all retail outlets in the community.

    I have never found an instance in history where the Ruling Class ever gave anything to the Lower Class without the threat of violence.

    For sure, I know of no military dictatorship that has been overthrown by nonviolent action.

    Oh, people mention Martin Luther King and Ghandi ...... but these people were just the "Face" of the opposition and were required to preach non-violence or they would be imprisoned. If the opposition wants respect, they gotta put a respectful face in TV Land.

    But in the background, there was huge violence taking place.

    Ghandi said During a prayer speech on June 16, 1947:

    “If we had the atom bomb, we would have used it against the British.”
    --Gandhi’s “The Last Phase,” Vol. II, p. 326--

    “Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.”
    --Gandhi’s “Autobiography,” Part V, Chapter XXVII--

    Matin Luther King and Ghandi were doing the same thing that Roosevelt did in In 1932/1933 in order to quell the violence and the plot to take over the White House.

    Matin Luther King was telling the Ruling Class that they could deal with him or deal with the "Violence".

    The New Deal:
    "And, it didn't happen because FDR was a great guy. It happened because people in this country were so radicalized, were so determined, were so organized, that he was able to sell the new deal to the elites as a compromise because the alternative was revolution."
    --Naomi Klein, National Conference for Media reform, June 07, 2008--

    "Martin Luther King was a wonderful man who did much to call the nation’s attention to the Jim Crow laws and to have them abolished. His nonviolent demonstrations however had nothing to do with the policy changes, the civil rights legislation, of the 1960s. Those changes came about due to the violence in the streets by young African-Americans primarily the Panthers in the North and the Deacons in the South. But there was no way that the United States Congress would deal with people like Stokely Carmichael or H Rap Brown so they canonized Dr. King has the champion of civil rights. Even his campus supporters, originally called the “Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee” knew that nonviolence would not achieve their ends so they changed their name to the “Student National Coordinating Committee”. Ralph Abernathy was sure to appear in Congress to take advantage of the most recent street violence. In that way, Martin Luther King can be said to have contributed to the civil rights legislation but certainly not his nonviolent demonstrations."

    "Similarly, in India, the nonviolent demonstrations of Gandhi came at the end of a 100 year period of violent revolution. Even while Gandhi himself was leading nonviolent demonstrations, other revolutionaries were destroying the infrastructure in India. Great Britain was burdened by the cost of two world wars and simply was no longer able to deal with the destruction caused by the violence of the revolutionaries. Just as the United States used Martin Luther King, so also did Great Britain make use of Gandhi. The British press turned Gandhi into a saint but nonviolent demonstrations only caused the deaths of tens of thousands of Hindus and Muslims since he was added to the committee which ultimately determined the nature of Indian independence."

    "There are even members of the liberal elite who will claim that it was the nonviolent boycotting of South Africa which ended, apartheid forgetting all about the violence of the ANC and in particular of Nelson Mandela, who was called a terrorist by the British and is now called a hero and patriot."

    Lets face it .... when the costs became to great, the Americans negotiated with the Taliban but not until it became financially necessary.

    What really killed Martin Luther King was that he was forming a union for the garbage workers.

    Calm
    The National Guard call out is not about 'respect', but fear.

    They will be heavily armed.

    If these rioting and looting morons actually listened to King, they would not be breaking the law like they have.

    They deserved to be hammered - hard.
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    I agree. The police seem to antagonize people more and more each day instead of defusing situations. Police really hate when they are being filmed and harass people who film them. The police are nothing but jack booted thugs. The people of Ferguson have a right to protest. Not all are looting or rioting. It is hard to believe that the police did NOT stop the looting but did arrest people smoking in a parked car on private property.
    Could you please stop taking anecdotes of single instances and characterizing them as general issues with the police as a whole? Thanks in advance!
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    The National Guard call out is not about 'respect', but fear.

    They will be heavily armed.

    If these rioting and looting morons actually listened to King, they would not be breaking the law like they have.

    They deserved to be hammered - hard.
    One has to wonder how successful the Civil Rights movement would have been if every time a march was held the attendees looted and burned the town.
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    It`s kind of what always happens when police overstep their boundries and murder someone.

    I remember the riots in London, Greece and France.

    I am just suprised that I never saw such riots in the US.

    And the prime cause of the situation in the US is the militarisation of the police forces.
    False. The primary cause of the riots is a bunch of lying "witnesses" claiming a police office assassinated a surrendering suspect.
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    I've had to cross Ferguson off the list of possible travel destinations. It's now on the same list as Gaza, Mosul and Somalia.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Can you show me the right wing blog from where you copied this.
    I hope you aren't suggesting plagiarism.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    https://governor.mo.gov/sites/defaul...er%2014-09.pdf

    No links to an actual story yet but it's getting aired on CNN.

    Well, they've tried letting things take their course and they got looting and riots. They tried bringing in a Ron Johnson and that didn't work. They tried a curfew and that didn't work. So now it's the National Guard.

    I really feel sorry for all the people that aren't being idiots. It's looking like there is some kind of organized effort to keep fanning the flames in Ferguson and the citizens of that town are the ones suffering because of it. This thing has gone way, way beyond a protest. It's got the institutional hate of the occupy movement and the racial heat of the "community activists" coming together to **** up things for everyone else.

    Damn, people! You've got Mike Brown's parents who can't even bury their kid because of this insurrection and you've got a cop who's looking at the black hole his life's become even though the investigation isn't done. This is what we get when a nation turns away from God and places their own interests above all else. How about a little humility, folks? How about a little compassion? How about taking two seconds to think about the way that your actions are going to mess someone else up?

    Well, as I was writing it seems CNN has added this to their webpage - Missouri National Guard headed to Ferguson - CNN.com
    I feel terribly sorry for the folks in Ferguson too, Luther.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    https://governor.mo.gov/sites/defaul...er%2014-09.pdf

    No links to an actual story yet but it's getting aired on CNN.

    Well, they've tried letting things take their course and they got looting and riots. They tried bringing in a Ron Johnson and that didn't work. They tried a curfew and that didn't work. So now it's the National Guard.

    I really feel sorry for all the people that aren't being idiots. It's looking like there is some kind of organized effort to keep fanning the flames in Ferguson and the citizens of that town are the ones suffering because of it. This thing has gone way, way beyond a protest. It's got the institutional hate of the occupy movement and the racial heat of the "community activists" coming together to **** up things for everyone else.

    Damn, people! You've got Mike Brown's parents who can't even bury their kid because of this insurrection and you've got a cop who's looking at the black hole his life's become even though the investigation isn't done. This is what we get when a nation turns away from God and places their own interests above all else. How about a little humility, folks? How about a little compassion? How about taking two seconds to think about the way that your actions are going to mess someone else up?




    Well, as I was writing it seems CNN has added this to their webpage - Missouri National Guard headed to Ferguson - CNN.com


    Mornin' Luther. Here is what Nixon said on it.


    Missouri governor deploys National Guard to 'restore peace' in Ferguson .....

    In his statement, Nixon called the acts "deliberate, coordinated, and intensifying violent attacks on lives and property in Ferguson." The day had started with "hope, prayers, and peaceful protests," but spiraled out of control due to "violent criminal acts of an organized and growing number of individuals, many from outside the community and state, whose actions are putting the residents and businesses of Ferguson at risk."

    Missouri governor deploys National Guard to 'restore peace' in Ferguson - The Week


    If they know this and so does the FBI.....why haven't they arrested any of those New Black Panthers that are there? Especially their leader who they said was inciting violence towards the police?

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    False. The primary cause of the riots is a bunch of lying "witnesses" claiming a police office assassinated a surrendering suspect.
    And how do you know that they are "lying"?

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    And how do you know that they are "lying"?
    Because they said that Brown was shot in the back when TWO autopsies, one paid for BY THE FAMILY, show no evidence of Brown being shot in the back.
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