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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

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    Mornin Luther. Bumping up your thread.


    2 People shot and 31 arrested in Ferguson Mayhem.
    Police, protesters collide again in Ferguson.....



    The National Guard arrived in Ferguson but kept its distance from the streets where protesters clashed again with police, as clouds of tear gas and smoke hung over the St. Louis suburb where Michael Brown was fatally shot by a police officer.

    Capt. Ron Johnson of the Missouri Highway Patrol, who is in charge of security in Ferguson, said bottles and Molotov cocktails were thrown from the crowd and that some officers had come under heavy gunfire. At least two people were shot and 31 were arrested, he said. He did not have condition updates on those who were shot. Johnson said four officers were injured by rocks or bottles.....snip~

    Police, protesters collide again in Ferguson

    Office Johnson also stated that many of these incidents with the police are from those out of state.....also the Press is whining and crying about their people being arrested. Including Foreign Press? It is the press that has driven this issue and are making it about the Police. Take a look at this photo.....its what is up on Yahoo their Front Page with this Story being reported 47 mins ago.

    Why don't the community just start chasing off All those that are not from Ferguson, the surrounding area and Missouri.

    Besides the New Black Panthers, Jesse and Sharptones stirring up their usual.....who are the others that are going after the police?
    I don't know for sure who the "others" are but I suspect that they are from the hardcore Communist and Anarchist groups that tend to show up at these kind of events.

    There is a contingent in this country that believes that the only way to social equality is through violent revolution and the overthrow of the bourgeoisie (they no longer use that term). They foment civil unrest first by promoting the idea that economic success, and therefore social success, is only achieved through oppression and then reinforce that idea by creating situations where that oppression can be graphically catalogued. For example, they will take actions during a peaceful protest which necessitate a police response then photograph that response as evidence of brutal oppression of innocents.

    The cops have an incredibly difficult job in a situation like we have in Ferguson. They will see two people "peacefully protesting" by holding a sign but while one of those people is holding the sign to get their point across the other is holding the sign to block the view to their buddy who just took a molotov cocktail out of his backpack and tossed it at the cops.

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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I don't know for sure who the "others" are but I suspect that they are from the hardcore Communist and Anarchist groups that tend to show up at these kind of events.

    There is a contingent in this country that believes that the only way to social equality is through violent revolution and the overthrow of the bourgeoisie (they no longer use that term). They foment civil unrest first by promoting the idea that economic success, and therefore social success, is only achieved through oppression and then reinforce that idea by creating situations where that oppression can be graphically catalogued. For example, they will take actions during a peaceful protest which necessitate a police response then photograph that response as evidence of brutal oppression of innocents.

    The cops have an incredibly difficult job in a situation like we have in Ferguson. They will see two people "peacefully protesting" by holding a sign but while one of those people is holding the sign to get their point across the other is holding the sign to block the view to their buddy who just took a molotov cocktail out of his backpack and tossed it at the cops.
    How as police do you deal with a situation where you have lots of innocent protestors and a handful of extremists masquerading as protestors, purposely trying to incite violence? And press meanwhile swarming over everything with their big cameras and lights competing with each other for the best pictures and sensationalizing the situation?

    This is an impossible situation. On the one hand, the police could set up a strict curfew for several nights, prohibiting protests after dark, which would allow them to better patrol and police the area, but which they have been reluctant to do because it will further enflame tensions and in the eyes of some raise First Amendment issues. Or they could demilitarize and cut down their numbers, and hope that the sight of fewer armored cars and weapons and riot gear will somehow incentivize instigators not to throw rocks and molotov cocktails at them or to stop looting.

    This is not going to end well. Frankly, I think it's somewhat of a miracle this has not devolved into something much worse than it has already. Despite all the sensationalist reporting, this is nothing close to a war zone. In any other country these forces would be flat out arresting everyone or attacking protestors with clubs, or worse. Tear gas is dangerous, mind you, but it's the most effective means of dispersing a crowd that doesn't want to be dispersed that we have, short of physical violence.

    (As you can probably tell, this isn't so much of a reply to you as it is a general rant)
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    Re: National Guard called in to Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I don't know for sure who the "others" are but I suspect that they are from the hardcore Communist and Anarchist groups that tend to show up at these kind of events.

    There is a contingent in this country that believes that the only way to social equality is through violent revolution and the overthrow of the bourgeoisie (they no longer use that term). They foment civil unrest first by promoting the idea that economic success, and therefore social success, is only achieved through oppression and then reinforce that idea by creating situations where that oppression can be graphically catalogued. For example, they will take actions during a peaceful protest which necessitate a police response then photograph that response as evidence of brutal oppression of innocents.

    The cops have an incredibly difficult job in a situation like we have in Ferguson. They will see two people "peacefully protesting" by holding a sign but while one of those people is holding the sign to get their point across the other is holding the sign to block the view to their buddy who just took a molotov cocktail out of his backpack and tossed it at the cops.

    I Wonder.....what Holder has to say about the Cops being fired upon at night? Same deal for the Media.

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