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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

Fundamentalist Christians say the darndest things.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Bull. There was a literal crucifixion and a literal resurrection. And unless the stiff-necked crowd repents and receives Christ as their Lord and Savior for the remission of their sins, there is a high probability they will drop down into a literal Hell.

Be forewarned.

Do you also think there was a literal man swallowed by a fish and a literal talking snake?
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Bull. There was a literal crucifixion and a literal resurrection. And unless the stiff-necked crowd repents and receives Christ as their Lord and Savior for the remission of their sins, there is a high probability they will drop down into a literal Hell.

Be forewarned.

Praise Jebus!!
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Yes, people were forced to stay in abusive and broken relationships or they simply left without getting a divorce, which wouldn't be in your statistics. In order to get a divorce back then, you had to prove that the relationship was abusive (which was harder than people may believe, since it wasn't even considered rape to have sex with your wife if she didn't want to) or there was adultery (which might not even matter if you were a woman). Plus, there weren't many options for divorced women afterward, so they didn't have much choice even if they could prove these things.

So you agree with deuce that the institution of marriage has always been ****ed up.
 
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Do you also think there was a literal man swallowed by a fish and a literal talking snake?

And there were literal people brought back from the dead. And a virgin that birthed a child, and a ship that saved all the worlds animals and then a insestuos family that replenished the earth, and..................
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

So you agree with deuce that the institution of marriage has always been ****ed up.

Failed word twisting has failed. Deuce and RN are not saying that the institution of marriage itself has always been f'd up, but that a marriage that ends in divorce is f'd up, in one manner or another. Some of it stems from individuals just jumping into marriage without really getting to know their potential spouse at all really. If you meet, propose and marry someone within a single calender year, you might as well start planning the divorce settlement (statistically speaking). Then there are those where one partner is abusive but had hidden it for years or escalated it beyond the other's endurance. These marriages are indeed f'd up. That doesn't lead to an automatic conclusion of the institution being f'd up. Divorce is not the cause of anything regarding the institution of marriage. It is the symptom, the end result. You are putting the cart before the horse.
 
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Firstly, not a lefty, and Yes I do read and you have skirted the question over and over.

Does it harm you? Yes or No?

I only calls em as I sees em...........Why are you so ashamed of being a left winger. Your posts give you away.
 
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Do you also think there was a literal man swallowed by a fish and a literal talking snake?

What you forget my left wing friend if you have faith anything is possible.
 
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Forced!!?? Continue denying the ill effects of divorce on our society, its comical. Interesting that the marriage Institute isn't harmed, but its always been ****ed up.

Yes, forced. Until relatively recently, divorce was difficult to obtain. You basically had to prove adultery or abuse. Not easy.

Divorce is a result of a broken family. Not a cause.
 
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What you forget my left wing friend if you have faith anything is possible.

Let us test that theory.

I have faith you will wake up tomorrow a tree huggin, gay lovin, liberal hippy.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

What you forget my left wing friend if you have faith anything is possible.

I have faith that one day enough people will abandon their bigoted ways so that things like same sex marriage will be legal.

Oh wait! Sorry, never mind. Looks like I don't need faith for that. I'll have to save that one for world peace.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

I only calls em as I sees em...........Why are you so ashamed of being a left winger. Your posts give you away.

So let me see:

I support gay marriage
I support gun rights
I support the death penalty
I support low taxation
I support Obamacare
I oppose racial bigotry
I oppose religious zealots of any creed be they; Christian, Muslim or Crazy Looney God is My Dog, variety
I oppose US military intervention in Middle East
I support US military intervention in Asia, to contain China & N. Korea

That a mixed enough bag?

Dahum, I really am all messed up LMAO
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Let us test that theory.

I have faith you will wake up tomorrow a tree huggin, gay lovin, liberal hippy.

You joke now but someday when you meet your maker you won't be joking my left wing friend.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

So let me see:

I support gay marriage
I support gun rights
I support the death penalty
I support low taxation
I support Obamacare
I oppose racial bigotry
I oppose religious zealots of any creed be they; Christian, Muslim or Crazy Looney God is My Dog, variety
I oppose US military intervention in Middle East
I support US military intervention in Asia, to contain China & N. Korea

That a mixed enough bag?

Dahum, I really am all messed up LMAO

Sure you do.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Bull. There was a literal crucifixion and a literal resurrection. And unless the stiff-necked crowd repents and receives Christ as their Lord and Savior for the remission of their sins, there is a high probability they will drop down into a literal Hell.

Be forewarned.

The resurrection has been debunked. Your lack of faith and dishonesty will undoubtedly cause you great pain in the afterlife. Repent now.
 
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I only calls em as I sees em...........Why are you so ashamed of being a left winger. Your posts give you away.

NP, you think anyone who disagrees with you is a lefty. I've seen you call some OBVIOUS right wingers, lefties, just because they disagreed with you.
 
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NP, you think anyone who disagrees with you is a lefty. I've seen you call some OBVIOUS right wingers, lefties, just because they disagreed with you.

This in itself could probably be a separate thread.

One of the problems that we are experiencing as the nation and politics becomes more polarized, is the increasing intolerance any anything in the middle. The whole SSM issue is a great case in point.

You can't agree with SSM that since it brands you as a lefty
You can't agree with the death penalty since it brands you as a right winger

Many now (Navy Pride, you seem to be one) can't accept that many of us have a mixed bag of thoughts, beliefs and ideology. There was a time when political parties, both Republican & Democrat could cater to a diverse set of beliefs.

Sadly no more. To use the cable TV analogy, to get the one channel you want, you need to subscribe to 500 channels of total garbage.

Now in some respects I blame media, the internet. We can watch, associate with an environment which only supports our own personal views. Read the Bias in the Media forum to get my point!

If I don't agree with it, it's WRONG WRONG WRONG. Shouting is the hallmark of talk radio and the entertainment sometimes called CNN, Fox News, & MSNBC and it in some ways validates the opinions of those who can't accept there are alternate views of society.

NP in your mind I may be a lefty, I've also been called a right winger, which in my mind is a badge of honor, telling me; I have a brain and can decide issues individually, not on some herd mentality
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

This in itself could probably be a separate thread.

One of the problems that we are experiencing as the nation and politics becomes more polarized, is the increasing intolerance any anything in the middle. The whole SSM issue is a great case in point.

You can't agree with SSM that since it brands you as a lefty
You can't agree with the death penalty since it brands you as a right winger

Many now (Navy Pride, you seem to be one) can't accept that many of us have a mixed bag of thoughts, beliefs and ideology. There was a time when political parties, both Republican & Democrat could cater to a diverse set of beliefs.

Sadly no more. To use the cable TV analogy, to get the one channel you want, you need to subscribe to 500 channels of total garbage.

Now in some respects I blame media, the internet. We can watch, associate with an environment which only supports our own personal views. Read the Bias in the Media forum to get my point!

If I don't agree with it, it's WRONG WRONG WRONG. Shouting is the hallmark of talk radio and the entertainment sometimes called CNN, Fox News, & MSNBC and it in some ways validates the opinions of those who can't accept there are alternate views of society.

NP in your mind I may be a lefty, I've also been called a right winger, which in my mind is a badge of honor, telling me; I have a brain and can decide issues individually, not on some herd mentality

I've been called a righty, a lefty, and labeled as one on each side of nearly any issue at one time or another. The key is to remember WHO the accusation is coming from. In cases like these, the accusation says more about the accuser than the accused
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

So you agree with deuce that the institution of marriage has always been ****ed up.

It has always had its flaws, but those are outweighed easily by its advantages, especially now.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

It has always had its flaws, but those are outweighed easily by its advantages, especially now.

Marriage has always been flawed, but in history there were conditions that masked that:

1. People died at a much younger age, a bad marriage was solved by early death!
2. There was a financial issue, especially for women, that they needed to survive, and marriage was a way to do that
3. Kids, once again women (generally) were the one's who felt responsible for their children's survival
4. Divorce was for many western societies either illegal, or so difficult that it was impossible for a normal individual

I don't believe that humans, or human relationships have changed. What may have changed is the social and legal recognition of the human condition.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Bull. There was a literal crucifixion and a literal resurrection. And unless the stiff-necked crowd repents and receives Christ as their Lord and Savior for the remission of their sins, there is a high probability they will drop down into a literal Hell. Be forewarned.

Apparently you believe in a flat disc earth with a dome over it and underneath was Sheol. That's what the writers of the OT described.

Ancient-Hebrew-view-of-universe.jpg
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Marriage has always been flawed, but in history there were conditions that masked that:

1. People died at a much younger age, a bad marriage was solved by early death!
2. There was a financial issue, especially for women, that they needed to survive, and marriage was a way to do that
3. Kids, once again women (generally) were the one's who felt responsible for their children's survival
4. Divorce was for many western societies either illegal, or so difficult that it was impossible for a normal individual

I don't believe that humans, or human relationships have changed. What may have changed is the social and legal recognition of the human condition.

I believe our relationships have changed. For instance, we marry today much more commonly for love or attraction than for family honor or status or benefit.

But the more relevant change, in my opinion, in how it is advantageous to marry has come to our laws. We have divorce court which actually concerns itself with dividing property between both partners in a marriage. We actually consider (or at least are supposed to) which situation is best for children when it comes to a divorce, living with each parent half the time or living mainly with one parent, and the other providing monetary support and visiting the child or the other parent having no contact. There are also protections of the spouses from other family members, particularly upon a death, and these are legal protections for both spouses. There are also protections of the spouse from the other for abusive situations.
 
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Apparently you believe in a flat disc earth with a dome over it and underneath was Sheol. That's what the writers of the OT described.

It's quite apparent you've never really researched the issues. You guys just make the same, sophomoric arguments ad nauseum.

Does the Bible Teach a Flat Earth
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

You joke now but someday when you meet your maker you won't be joking my left wing friend.

As will those who think committing adultery with a married woman while her husband is off serving our country.
 
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