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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

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WCH said:
But, it's none of your business. Are you the Gay caped crusader?
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If it's not my business to support marriage equality, why is it your business to oppose it? Are you the only one allowed to fight for what you think is right?
 
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matchlight said:
As a reasonable person, I think the Supreme Court should immediately hold all state laws criminalizing those acts unconstitutional. Equal protection means just that, and all this discrimination against rapists and thieves has been going on way too long. What about their rights? Besides, basing all these laws on xtian dogma is just more creeping theocracy. When the Flounders said strict separation of church and state in the constitutional declaration, that's just what they meant!!!
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Oh look, it's the guy who pretends to base his arguments on sound legal reasoning. Making an absurd post.

Ok chief, I can play your game too. Everything must be illegal if it bothers me in the slightest.
 
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prometeus said:
:rofl:lamo The request was for something credible not self serving.
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You have to love him quoting The American Stinker. Cracks me up.
 
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Anthony60 said:
You claim that I said something, then link to posts where I didn't say what you claim I said.
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Are you seriously rejecting that those three posts of yours do not strongly tie marriage and children together?

I'm pretty sure that is not what I said, but you keep trying to find it. But, maybe we should make that a law, that you have to be married to have kids. What do you think? Also, that you must be able to reproduce, with your mate, at some point to get married. Boy, would that clear a lot of this crap up!
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Why did you tie marriage and children three times together if you don't think they are required?
 
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Arbo said:
When someone has blind faith that 'their' religion is the only true one, that their religious text is the only 'truth' out there…. well, their view on the credibility of others isn't really worth much.
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I don't have 'blind faith'. I have the historical accounts from antiquity and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit.

Arbo said:
I support your right to believe in whatever you want to believe in, but that doesn't mean it is 'real' or 'true', and certainly not 'THE truth' … as far too many religions have been used to do horrible things during the existence of man. And just about every religion shares the same stories, and those stories date back way beyond christianity or islam…
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Any bad things that so-called Christians have done are violations of the teachings of Jesus. It doesn't mean Biblical Christianity is itself to blame. In fact there's plenty of gays who celebrate Jesus and Christianity even if they refuse to repent of their gay sex sins.

The gay pride folks don't stop celebrating their social status because any number of gays have murdered people or purposely infected others with the HIV virus.
 
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Logicman said:
The gay pride folks don't stop celebrating their social status because any number of gays have murdered people or purposely infected others with the HIV virus.
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What on earth are you talking about?
 
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Logicman said:
The gay pride folks don't stop celebrating their social status because any number of gays have murdered people or purposely infected others with the HIV virus.
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Top Cat said:
What on earth are you talking about?
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I actually see his point here. He is going to continue to be a proud Christian even though some people that claim to be Christian have done horrible things just like people in the LGBT community still attend Pride activities even though there are LGBT people who do horrible things.
 
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Top Cat said:
You have to love him quoting The American Stinker. Cracks me up.
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One would hope that Christianity meant a certain level of honesty and integrity.
 
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Logicman said:
The gay pride folks don't stop celebrating their social status because any number of gays have murdered people or purposely infected others with the HIV virus.
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A number of any group has done those things.
 
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ecofarm said:
A number of any group has done those things.
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That was my point. But when do you hear pro-gay posters around here saying anything good about Christian history / Christianity?
 
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prometeus said:
One would hope that Christianity meant a certain level of honesty and integrity.
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The more you talk about Jesus, the less you have to act like him. The most religious people on the forum are some of the least honest and most immoral.
 
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Logicman said:
That was my point. But when do you hear pro-gay posters around here saying anything good about Christian history / Christianity?
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I dunno... me?
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Logicman said:
That was my point. But when do you hear pro-gay posters around here saying anything good about Christian history / Christianity?
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I have seen plenty. There are lots of good Christians around. Especially the ones who mind their own business. But there are some around here that think it's OK to tell other people who they can sleep with or marry. Or think they should throw people in jail for infidelity. Imagine that?
 
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Logicman said:
That was my point. But when do you hear pro-gay posters around here saying anything good about Christian history / Christianity?
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I, as a self professed transgender member of the LGBT community and a pro-gay poster, am officially saying that I love the work of the Salvation Army, the YMCA, the YWCA, Catholic Charities, the many Christian food banks, the many Christian charities that aid people in having heat in the winter, and the work with lepers done by many religious people through the ages. This list is not comprehensive.

Now, in which threads should I have happened to mention all that?
 
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Top Cat said:
I have seen plenty. There are lots of good Christians around. Especially the ones who mind their own business. But there are some around here that think it's OK to tell other people who they can sleep with or marry. Or think they should throw people in jail for infidelity. Imagine that?
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So, we should just let our fellow man go down to perdition and not try to turn them back to righteousness and salvation? Have you never read the Bible? Try reading Ezekiel chapter 33.
 
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Amandi said:
I, as a self professed transgender member of the LGBT community and a pro-gay poster, am officially saying that I love the work of the Salvation Army, the YMCA, the YWCA, Catholic Charities, the many Christian food banks, the many Christian charities that aid people in having heat in the winter, and the work with lepers done by many religious people through the ages. This list is not comprehensive.

Now, in which threads should I have happened to mention all that?
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This one is good. And good show for posting that!
 
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obvious Child said:
The more you talk about Jesus, the less you have to act like him. The most religious people on the forum are some of the least honest and most immoral.
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Nonsense.
 
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Logicman said:
So, we should just let our fellow man go down to perdition and not try to turn them back to righteousness and salvation? Have you never read the Bible? Try reading Ezekiel chapter 33.
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I think you fail to understand the notion of faith.

Tell me, what makes Christianity absolutely correct over say, Hinduism? Or Shinto? How do you know YOUR interpretation of YOUR religion is the correct one?

How do you know that your attempt to save people doesn't actually damn them?

Nonsense.
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On the contrary, Creationists are some of the most dishonest people on this forum.
 
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Logicman said:
So, we should just let our fellow man go down to perdition and not try to turn them back to righteousness and salvation?
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My sex life is none of your damned business. Nor is yours any of my concern.


Have you never read the Bible? Try reading Ezekiel chapter 33.
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Plenty.

Not big on fairy tales.
 
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obvious Child said:
The more you talk about Jesus, the less you have to act like him. The most religious people on the forum are some of the least honest and most immoral.
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Wow.

I don't post in the same places you do, but that's not been my experience, by and large, at all.
 
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nota bene said:
Wow.

I don't post in the same places you do, but that's not been my experience, by and large, at all.
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When you have religious folk saying Iraq in 2007 was butterflies and rainbows before Obama, creationists outright lying about known scientific events, you tend not to view overly religious people well.

There was this one creationist on another forum. He was the worst person I've ever met online. If you disagreed with him on anything, he'd condemn you to Hell, saying you'd be tortured forever.

I agree with Turtledude, whiskey is like religion, all in moderation.
 
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Logicman said:
I don't have 'blind faith'.
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When you have no solid empirical evidence, you have blind faith.

Any bad things that so-called Christians have done are violations of the teachings of Jesus.
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And you have followed the scripture perfectly, your whole life, right? :roll:

The gay pride folks don't stop celebrating their social status because any number of gays have murdered people or purposely infected others with the HIV virus.
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There is a difference between actions of individuals, and actions of an organization… specifically religious leaders that order murder and destruction. From the very start of Christianity the church wanted to get rid of the pagans and ordered the destruction of pagan temples. Within the first 5 centuries of 'AD' time, thousands of pagans were murdered, their rituals were deemed illegal and punishable by death. This all came from the heads of the CHURCH.

Charlemagne had over 4500 saxons beheaded because they would not convert to christianity, which was far from the worst mass murdering in the name of the church, the crusades killed off muslims, jews, natives in the 'new land' (americas), all 'infidels' that would not convert to christianity. All sanctioned by the CHURCH.

When they were not murdering people because they refused to convert, they were murdering them because they were 'witches' or 'heretics'.

So when the head/leadership of 'the gays' starts sanctioning similar bad things, let us know.

prometeus said:
One would hope that Christianity meant a certain level of honesty and integrity.
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If that was the case, there wouldn't be a 'real' christian alive.

Logicman said:
But when do you hear pro-gay posters around here saying anything good about Christian history / Christianity?
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I don't see anyone here that is 'pro-jay'. I see posters that understand what it means to be human, and they understand liberty and freedom and the ideals of this nation. And it is not an anti-christian thing… both christianity and islam stand together in the same sort of bigotry, so why are you defending only your religion and not the other one?
 
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