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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Finally the truth comes out........There are a lot of countries that ban religion.......Why don't you move there?

There are very few countries that ban religion. I do not know where you got your information from. Maybe you meant that 1 religion is allowed in some countries and no others but in most countries at least one religion is allowed and in most countries freedom of religion is possible.

So moving to a country that bans religion is extremely difficult and for an American moving to one would be next to impossible.
 
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It isn't gay marriage that should be banned, it is religion. For as of yet I have not seen a married gay couple murder people that do not believe as they do, religion however ….

Banning religion is utterly ridiculous. Why would you do something like that. Allow freedom of religion instead, allow every to choose to belong to a religious organization/faith or not to belong to one, there is no need for a ban.

If you would have stated that states should refrain from promoting one faith above all others or making 1 faith a state religion, then maybe I could agree with you. But if 90% of you population is of one specific faith, why should they not make that a state religion as long as they guarantee the freedom of religion for the other 10 percent and do not make laws that would interfere with that freedom of religion?

If would also have agreed that it should not be allowed to take your religious book and make it into the blueprint for your criminal laws on a 1 on 1 basis (like someone using the things illegal in bible or qu'ran and giving the penalty that is mentioned there because those punishments are cruel and mostly immoral and unimaginable in the 21st century).

I am an atheist and even I do not want a ban on religion. If you want more freedom for people, you don't start with making something illegal that gives a lot of joy and mental freedom for a lot of people like religion.
 
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LOL. What is humorous is that you do not seem to be able to see how you would be a much better fit there than anyone that is actually tolerant of those that differ from themselves.

Nice dodge, you hate religion. almost 90% of the people in this country believe in God and adhere to some religion.If you don't like it don't let the door hit you in t he ass on the way out......We have people dying so you can speak your peace about religion....That is the sad part. Lefties like you and your daddy Obama are slowly destroying this country.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

There are very few countries that ban religion. I do not know where you got your information from. Maybe you meant that 1 religion is allowed in some countries and no others but in most countries at least one religion is allowed and in most countries freedom of religion is possible.

So moving to a country that bans religion is extremely difficult and for an American moving to one would be next to impossible.

I can't believe you say that..I already listed the countries that say join Islam or you are a infidel that must die.
 
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Very interesting results thus far.


Marriage

I understand not wanting the word marriage for homosexual couples but if the government wants to regulate marriage (via license) then their should equal application of the law for hetero and homo sexual couples.
 
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A secular government [The FedGov] shouldn't be passing laws concerning marriage. That should be left to the states as it has been in the past.

You understand that 1) the federal government hasn't been passing any laws in and of themselves concerning who can and can't get married. That has be left to the states. 2) When the states are left to choose their own laws and no federal government intervention occurs, that allows one state to say you are married and another to declare your marriage null and void on a legal level if you become a resident of that second state.

I can't believe you say that..I already listed the countries that say join Islam or you are a infidel that must die.

And you still fail on this argument, even when quoting the very text that shows your comment failing. You can't be in a country that says that only one religion will be allowed and say that the country bans religion. It doesn't ban religion, a statement that would be all inclusive. Those countries ban all but one, if they even ban that many. You are challenged to back up your statement by finding a country that actually bans religion period. Or be a man and admit and maintain the argument that you are discussing countries that ban all but one. But you still have to show that they actually ban all but Islam, as in cite the laws.
 
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I can't believe you say that..I already listed the countries that say join Islam or you are a infidel that must die.

Then as said you did not mean "ban religions" but ban some religions, which is not want you stated because you said:

Navy Pride said:
There are a lot of countries that ban religion

Because if they say join Islam they cannot possibly be banning religion because Islam is a religion. And that would make them not ban religions but only allow 1 religion and one is not the same as none thus they would not be banning religion at all.
 
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Banning religion is utterly ridiculous.

That was my point… religion has done more 'damage' throughout the existance of religion that 'gay marriage' will ever do to marriage.

Nice dodge,

No dodge. It is true that your religious beliefs and intolerance would fit better alongside Islam than I ever would. I mean, you all share so many beliefs and high levels intolerance.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Defending homosexuals and SSM is no way to show it. IMO.

In your opinion. Which is meaningless to my religion.

The Bible is fairly clear.

Yes, it is. It's not the problem you think it is.
 
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Are we splitting hairs? To the best of my knowledge it doesn't even address "consensual" homosexuality but it does address homosexuality and definitely labels it a sin.

There is a big difference between consensual homosexuality and homosexual rape. It's the latter that is addressed in the bible. There is also a difference between consensual homosexuality and homosexuality based on pagan rituals. It is the latter that is addressed in the Bible.
 
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If my granddaughter looks up at me after seeing two dudes getting married on TV and asks "Why?" it's in my life.

You have choices of what to do. You can tell her that it's a natural variation of sexual orientation, or you can tell her that it's "adult" stuff and not something to discuss.

BTW: I'm going to tell her it's an abomination against God when she old enough to understand.

Oh, so you are going to lie to her. If that's what you want to do...
 
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That means nothing.

Exactly. You have nothing.

I'd like to see that quote. Same old same old.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...egalizing-gay-marriage-52.html#post1063665204

Do you know what a link is?

Zero quotes, as I said, you are not being honest.

How is linking three of your posts equate to zero quotes?

Here's where you are mistaken... children are essential for the continuation of the species, that is what I said. All that was to the point that same sex "marriage" is not the same as regular marriage.

Since when was marriage a requirement to have children?

But as I see in other posts here, people have been so dishonest that they refuse to admit it, and actually state the false claim that it is the same. No point in even responding to those people.

This is rich coming from a user who, when presented with three of his own posts says no quotes were provided.

I'd also like to emphasize that my biggest concern here is the abuse of federal power. That just leads to more abuse. If a State okay's gay marriage, I can live with it. I don't agree, and feel that it is wrong, but that's fine.

It is now a routine practice of the left to abuse our rights to get what they want. That is dangerous. And I have not seen one person on the left here with the slightest clue as to that fact.

You again run from answering the question.

How is giving rights to people enslavement?
 
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Again, put up for a vote in Nov. as a state constitutional amendment proposition.

If the people of Texas vote it's OK to support depravity, I'll never say another word on the subject.

I've already proven that your anti-gay sentiment is dying out. You are wrong on that without question.
 
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I can't believe you say that..I already listed the countries that say join Islam or you are a infidel that must die.

That isn't "banning religion". It is promoting one religion to the point where all others are made illegal. There is still religion in those countries, just it is only a single main religion.
 
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That isn't "banning religion". It is promoting one religion to the point where all others are made illegal. There is still religion in those countries, just it is only a single main religion.

Hey....stop introducing facts and intelligence into this thread..... :2wave:
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Lets stop the side swiping and just stick to the topic shall we?
 
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There is a big difference between consensual homosexuality and homosexual rape. It's the latter that is addressed in the bible. There is also a difference between consensual homosexuality and homosexuality based on pagan rituals. It is the latter that is addressed in the Bible.
Are you referring to OT or both OT and NT?
 
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That was my point… religion has done more 'damage' throughout the existance of religion that 'gay marriage' will ever do to marriage.



No dodge. It is true that your religious beliefs and intolerance would fit better alongside Islam than I ever would. I mean, you all share so many beliefs and high levels intolerance.

Well look what the cat dragged in.

Been a while, stranger.
 
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...egalizing-gay-marriage-52.html#post1063665204

Do you know what a link is?
How is linking three of your posts equate to zero quotes?

You claim that I said something, then link to posts where I didn't say what you claim I said.

Since when was marriage a requirement to have children?
I'm pretty sure that is not what I said, but you keep trying to find it. But, maybe we should make that a law, that you have to be married to have kids. What do you think? Also, that you must be able to reproduce, with your mate, at some point to get married. Boy, would that clear a lot of this crap up!
 
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But the religious rarely want to admit to the number of people that have been slaughtered in the name of their god.

Nice try.

Last time I checked Jesus taught his disciples to love their enemies and fellow man, and reach out to them with the Gospel of salvation. And you can't malign the faith by citing examples of those people who violate its precepts.
 
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Nice try.

Last time I checked Jesus taught his disciples to love their enemies and fellow man, and reach out to them with the Gospel of salvation. And you can't malign the faith by citing examples of those people who violate its precepts.

Yup Jesus was albout loving his fellow man, makes me wonder why his followers are so anti homosexual.
 
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Yup Jesus was albout loving his fellow man, makes me wonder why his followers are so anti homosexual.

Because they actually follow Paul and not Jesus.

Now, there are certainly Christians who do follow Jesus, but far too many don't.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Because they actually follow Paul and not Jesus.

Now, there are certainly Christians who do follow Jesus, but far too many don't.

Some may say Jesus never spoke out against homosexuality. That’s not really true. Jesus is God. As God, Jesus is the one who gave Moses the Levitical law against gay sexual relations to begin with; and he’s the one who inspires all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16), including prohibitions against gay sexual relations in Romans 1:26-27 and I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.

It’s also worth noting that Jesus didn’t mention wife beating or other sins such as pedophilia either, and there are not many folks who would argue he approved of those behaviors. So Jesus was under no obligation to reiterate the moral laws against homosexual sin that already existed, unless there were clarifications to be made. (righterreport.com)
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Some may say Jesus never spoke out against homosexuality. That’s not really true. Jesus is God. As God, Jesus is the one who gave Moses the Levitical law against gay sexual relations to begin with; and he’s the one who inspires all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16), including prohibitions against gay sexual relations in Romans 1:26-27 and I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.

It’s also worth noting that Jesus didn’t mention wife beating or other sins such as pedophilia either, and there are not many folks who would argue he approved of those behaviors. So Jesus was under no obligation to reiterate the moral laws against homosexual sin that already existed, unless there were clarifications to be made. (righterreport.com)

Or more likely he would be hypocritical if he did.
 
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