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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Why does that mean I have to live according to Christian principles? I'm not Christian. As it stands you can go to church as you like, practice your faith as you like, and statistically no one is going to discriminate against you based on your religion. Most people would consider that a pretty good deal.
    The Christian baker who wouldn't make a Gay wedding cake was discriminated against. Christians are being persecuted and killed world-wide in countries where they thought they had religious freedom. Then they let the government or the the small sections of the populous change the arrangements.

    I see that happening here.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Christian baker who wouldn't make a Gay wedding cake was discriminated against. Christians are being persecuted and killed world-wide in countries where they thought they had religious freedom. Then they let the government or the the small sections of the populous change the arrangements.

    I see that happening here.
    Because of the baker. And has this sort of thing happened in your own life?

    And you're still avoiding my question, which is why do I have to live my life according to Christian principles?
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Christian baker who wouldn't make a Gay wedding cake was discriminated against. Christians are being persecuted and killed world-wide in countries where they thought they had religious freedom. Then they let the government or the the small sections of the populous change the arrangements.

    I see that happening here.
    Stop standing on the corpses of the dead Christians in Iraq and using them as props in your ludicrous crusade to prove that Christians are being persecuted in America. That's disgusting.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    With all due respect I don't know how anyone could be strongly religious and be for gay marriage.
    That's what happens when you think that your beliefs are the only real ones. "Mine is the only way." does not make you right. One of the biggest single problems I have with some people of faith.

    There are plenty of people that believe what they believe, but are open minded enough to respect that others might not agree or that their beliefs don't give them the right to determine what's right for others..
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Christian baker who wouldn't make a Gay wedding cake was discriminated against.
    LOL. Him not baking a cake is him being discriminated against? Wow, that's some kind of twisted logic right there.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    This country and it's institution were founded on Christian principles. .
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    LOL. Him not baking a cake is him being discriminated against? Wow, that's some kind of twisted logic right there.
    I find it funny, this notion that the guy who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding, citing his objection to homosexual marriage, is the one being discriminated against, as opposed to, say, the gay couple getting married. Absolutely boggles my mind, the logical hoops through which some Christians will leap in order to find martyrs.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Christian baker who wouldn't make a Gay wedding cake was discriminated against.

    Hornswaggle.

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    dis·crim·i·na·tion noun \dis-ˌkri-mə-ˈnā-shən\: the practice of unfairly treating a person or group of people differently from other people or groups of people



    The Public Accommodation law in question in New Mexico didn't discriminate, it was generally applicable to ALL businesses that meet the definition of Public Accommodation establishments and the law required ALL of them to provide full and equal services to customer and denies ALL of them the ability to deny service based on various characteristics.

    The baker VOLUNTARILY decided to include wedding cakes in their business model. They are FREE to not sell wedding cakes to blacks, or Mexicans, or Jews, or Gays - just don't include it in the goods and services offered to the general public.



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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I find it funny, this notion that the guy who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding, citing his objection to homosexual marriage, is the one being discriminated against, as opposed to, say, the gay couple getting married. Absolutely boggles my mind, the logical hoops through which some Christians will leap in order to find martyrs.

    I believe the baker in Colorado, well he agreed to make a wedding cake for dogs. But I guess they were male and female.


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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Christian baker who wouldn't make a Gay wedding cake was discriminated against. Christians are being persecuted and killed world-wide in countries where they thought they had religious freedom. Then they let the government or the the small sections of the populous change the arrangements.

    I see that happening here.
    No, the baker wasn't. That would be like saying a restaurant that refused to serve white people food or a gas station that refused to allow women to purchase anything without the presence of a man is being discriminated against if they get sued or lose a lawsuit.

    Christians are not being killed in this country for their beliefs, at least not in great numbers (there are almost always some crazy people who will kill people for reasons such as religion or sexuality or race or other such "reasons"). More homosexuals are killed for being homosexuals in this country than Christians are killed for being Christians. In many other countries that kill Christians for being Christian, they also kill homosexuals for being homosexual.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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