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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I know what DOMA states. It doesn't make reference to who can and can't marry within the states. It actually acknowledges that same sex marriages WILL exist and defines how the FEDERAL government will deal with them.
    But one poster up says it was the lesser of two evils. Evil being SSM.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    But one poster up says it was the lesser of two evils. Evil being SSM.
    NO, the two evils were
    1) Sign DOMA into law and limit same sex marriage benefits at a federal level or
    2) Don't sign and risk a federal marriage amendment which would be INCREDIBLY hard to overturn.

    So yes it was the lesser of the two evils.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    But one poster up says it was the lesser of two evils. Evil being SSM.
    SSM is not evil. People who want to use their religion to enforce their ideas on others are
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    SSM is not evil. People who want to use their religion to enforce their ideas on others are
    We'll let God sort that out.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Like ObamaCare...
    Do you think I approve of Obamacare? I have no idea what was going on with that.

    Both Republicans and Democrats supported DOMA in 1994 in both houses of Congress (342 in the House, 85 in the Senate, votes for this bill). That was enough to get a Federal Marriage Amendment through both houses. Unlike Obamacare (which Obama supported, for whatever insane reason), Clinton did not really support DOMA, he simply knew that it would be pointless to stop it. He didn't even allow photos to be taken when he signed it.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    But one poster up says it was the lesser of two evils. Evil being SSM.
    Oh, no. Don't you dare put words in my mouth. The other, greater "evil" would have been a Federal Marriage Amendment.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Do you think I approve of Obamacare? I have no idea what was going on with that.

    Both Republicans and Democrats supported DOMA in 1994 in both houses of Congress (342 in the House, 85 in the Senate, votes for this bill). That was enough to get a Federal Marriage Amendment through both houses. Unlike Obamacare (which Obama supported, for whatever insane reason), Clinton did not really support DOMA, he simply knew that it would be pointless to stop it. He didn't even allow photos to be taken when he signed it.
    I was making a humorous comparison based on evils.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Oh, no. Don't you dare put words in my mouth. The other, greater "evil" would have been a Federal Marriage Amendment.
    Sorry. that was a bad way to put it.
    I added the "evil being SMM" part.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That was an EO from Obama. The FedGov won't support DOMA any longer.

    Defense of Marriage Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Actually it's because of Windsor v. United States where Section 3 of DOMA was ruled unconstitutional.


    UNITED STATES v. WINDSOR | LII / Legal Information Institute



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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Sorry. that was a bad way to put it.
    I added the "evil being SMM" part.
    The Science Museum of Minnesota is evil? I've heard only good things about Minnesota, and I can't imagine a Science Museum being evil. Or maybe you mean the "SMM - leading international maritime trade fair"? While it is held in Hamburg, I don't think that automatically makes it evil.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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