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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You can call it a marriage, but it's not. It's different, not the same as a marriage.
    What's different?

    Do they not pay bills?
    Do they not have a mortgage or car insurance?
    Do they get a free roof instead of having to pay for it?
    Do they not have to cook, clean, eat, wash dishes, clean clothes?
    Do they not watch tv?
    Do they never argue about finances, or who's going to run the vacuum cleaner?

    What's different?

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    We limit a person to only being allowed one person as their named legal medical decision maker,...
    Do we? With a single spouse marriage that becomes obvious, but your statement, while you probably intended it to, does not limit itself to married individuals alone. How does medical decision work for a single adult child who's not designated one parent over the other and both disagree as to what is to happen, under the assumption of the adult being incapable of making that decision? Assume for the purpose of the question that the adult child never thought to get a medical PoA.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Difference of opinion is ok (altho hey...what do you personally think of racist's opinions?) but it's the attempt to force such bigotry on others and deprive them of civil rights that most object to.

    The bigots are deprived of nothing. Being offended is not protected at all.
    To me that's about where the conversation about SSM should end. I've tried to come up with something I lose as a married straight person if the gay couple down the street from me gets married, and I'm at a loss. Marriage presumably increases their happiness, and encourages long term commitment, fidelity, and stability which are clear social or societal goods. And same sex couples obtaining those benefits does not require me to lose any of them - there is an infinite supply

    I suppose most people strongly opposed to SSM and who favor laws against homosexual conduct also believe that being gay is a "choice" but there is just no evidence that's true, and there is certainly strong evidence that efforts to change sexual orientation fail all but a tiny sliver of even for the most strongly motivated individuals. So it's not as if proponents of anti-gay policies can rationally expect those policies will reduce the number of gay individuals, even if that was a legitimate goal. The evidence tells us those policies will have almost no effect, and do quite a bit of damage to those who cannot and will not change into straight people.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What's different?

    Do they not pay bills?
    Do they not have a mortgage or car insurance?
    Do they get a free roof instead of having to pay for it?
    Do they not have to cook, clean, eat, wash dishes, clean clothes?
    Do they not watch tv?
    Do they never argue about finances, or who's going to run the vacuum cleaner?

    What's different?
    And, increasingly, gay couples have children....

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And, increasingly, gay couples have children....
    Maybe the children of gays are robots that do all the cooking, cleaning, working, and bill paying for the HOMO's ??????????

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And what percentage of those voters were over 40? Furthermore, that was back in 2005.

    Recent pollings already show you've lost:



    That's from April 2014.

    Poll shows more Texans support same-sex marriage than oppose it - Lone Star Q
    Again, put up for a vote in Nov. as a state constitutional amendment proposition.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Maybe the children of gays are robots that do all the cooking, cleaning, working, and bill paying for the HOMO's ??????????
    I would get an infraction if I used that term.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Do we? With a single spouse marriage that becomes obvious, but your statement, while you probably intended it to, does not limit itself to married individuals alone. How does medical decision work for a single adult child who's not designated one parent over the other and both disagree as to what is to happen, under the assumption of the adult being incapable of making that decision? Assume for the purpose of the question that the adult child never thought to get a medical PoA.
    We limit how many people they can name on a legal medical power of attorney or how many they can have legally recognized at once.

    Living Wills, Health Care Proxies, & Advance Health Care Directives | Section of Real Property, Trust and Estate Law

    Now, when it comes to blood relations or other legal relationships that we don't choose, then there can legally be more than one person with that right, but it is more of a default thing rather than something being chosen by the person who might need those decisions made for them in the future. But these are due to inherent nature of the relationship to begin with. Marriages on the other hand are not something that happen because someone else chooses it for us. We don't choose our parents. And our parents have a right to both have a say for us, until we are able to and do decide to take it upon ourselves to choose someone else to do it for us.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Right and wrong are subjective.
    If you had religion you would know that is a BS statement. Spare me your condescension.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If you had religion you would know that is a BS statement. Spare me your condescension.
    No, it isn't a "BS statement", whether you have religion or not. Right and wrong are subjective. The very fact that there are so many different religions is evidence to this.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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