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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    DID YOU READ my post #436?




    My comment was based on the Judge's statement noted in RED. This is one reason why the 10th is not a valid argument.


    Texas ban on same-sex marriage struck down - CNN.com
    Maybe the people should indict the judge. Isn't that how things are done today?
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Ding ding ding we have a winner.

    Specifically polling only a group of 100 people.....how is that random. Oh yeah, because this month they polled Karl and Steve at NPs group instead of Mike and Mark.
    In fact, shouldn't it be evened out if we're going to conduct polling this way now? If you poll 100 old military vets, shouldn't you also poll 100 young students studying something like "Liberal Arts"? Or perhaps a 100 young students from some liberal colleges such as Warren Wilson College, Sarah Lawrence College, or Oberlin College?
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Maybe the people should indict the judge. Isn't that how things are done today?
    THE JUDGE? All of the judges who have overturned unconstitutional laws and amendments are saying the same things. His statements merely echoed other Federal Judges decisions regarding the constitutionality of bans on same sex marriage.

    Neither Federal or State governments should have the right to define marriage. There is zero logical reason(s) for banning same sex marriage. Banning SSM is strictly a religious based tenet.

    In this country...you have the right to NOT MARRY a person of your same sex. Wonderful, huh?

    I don't care if the rancher across the road wants to marry his prize heifer. They'll have damn ugly kids. But that's none of my business.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    I would argue that the constitution guarantees equal protection. Marriage is a legal contract and so therefore if a man and woman can enter into a contract that provides them certain legal privileges and protections (and also obligations) then two men must be allowed to enter into a contract with the same privileges, protections and obligations.

    As a partnered gay man, I still can't for the life of me figure out why in the hell people care what that contract is called. You can call it marriage, civil union, or XYZ relationship contract. I could not care less what you call it, but I should be provided with the same protections if I want them (which I do not).
    Aren't we making the same point.
    but as an aside why wouldn't you want the same protections?
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    DID YOU READ my post #436?




    My comment was based on the Judge's statement noted in RED. This is one reason why the 10th is not a valid argument.


    Texas ban on same-sex marriage struck down - CNN.com
    There's no way in Hell the Judge met all these requirements for the injunction.

    That there is a substantial likelihood of success on the merits of the case,
    That they face a substantial threat of irreparable damage or injury if the injunction is not granted,
    That the balance of harms weighs in favor of the party seeking the preliminary injunction
    That the grant of an injunction would serve the public interest.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    There's no way in Hell the Judge met all these requirements for the injunction.

    That there is a substantial likelihood of success on the merits of the case,
    That they face a substantial threat of irreparable damage or injury if the injunction is not granted,
    That the balance of harms weighs in favor of the party seeking the preliminary injunction
    That the grant of an injunction would serve the public interest.
    Where did you pull this list from?

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    *sigh* More opinion dressed up as fact. We'll get you a dictionary.
    Mixture of fact and opinion. The states where it's legal are a fact. And many are HARDCORE BLUE STATES. Also a fact. I'm thinking you're fact-challenged, my friend.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Where did you pull this list from?
    This is what the judge ordered in the case against Texas,

    Preliminary injunction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think this is a good point that is overlooked, mostly because of PC reasons and that the gay marriage crowd doesn't want to face it. People mate to procreate, and to keep the species going.
    No, we don't. Most sex is done to form emotional bonds, not procreation. In fact, many humans go out of their way to have sex that won't result in procreation. In our 7 years of marriage and longer being in a sexual relationship, my husband and I have only not taken precautions against getting pregnant around 10 times (most of which took place during a single month), and have ended up pregnant twice. Had either of us been unable to procreate, we would still be together in an intimate relationship. Humans do not "mate to procreate", especially not mainly. Most human mating takes place for the purpose of bonding, not procreation.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Perhaps I didn't word it well enough. Heterosexual sex is essential to the continuation of the species. Doesn't mean all people must reproduce, but a significant number must to continue the species. Homosexual sex? Could disappear tomorrow forever, would not hurt the species at all, it would go on without missing a beat. So, are they the same? Certainly not. Is a homsexual union the same as a heterosexual marriage? Again, no.
    No actually heterosexual sex is not essential to the continuation of our species. We have IVF, sperm donation, egg donation, and surrogacy. We only need men and women. We don't need those men and women to be in sexual relationships with each other to continue the species. In fact, they can even have sex with each other without being in an intimate relationship and have a child and go back to a different, same sex relationship after and we'd be fine.

    In reality, this has absolutely nothing to do with same sex marriage or homosexuality because same sex couples having sex, being in intimate relationships, or being legally allowed to marry has no negative affect on procreation rates.
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