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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So then you should support same-sex marriage then since it promotes stability within a family.
    You are making irrational leaps of illogic. The fact that the government must be involved in marriage for it to exist since it's a state sanctioned institution isn't proof that society is better off or worse off whether homosexuals are allowed to marry or not. Marriage is good for society but whether marriage should be expanded to include homosexual couples is a different issue and one that I don't have time to argue. It should be enough for you to argue from the "libertarian" perspective that government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all (if you're actually a libertarian).
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    You are making irrational leaps of illogic. The fact that the government must be involved in marriage for it to exist since it's a state sanctioned institution isn't proof that society is better off or worse off whether homosexuals are allowed to marry or not. Marriage is good for society but whether marriage should be expanded to include homosexual couples is a different issue and one that I don't have time to argue against. It should be enough for you to argue from the "libertarian" perspective that government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all (if you're actually a libertarian).
    Yeah and I'm sure you have been against the government being involved with Marriage your entire life, or was it just when you found the writing on the wall that gays were going to be allowed to marry?

    Also, the government being involved with marriage also has to do with rights of the married couple being protected as well. So please spare me your idiotic rhetoric about my libertarian lean con.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not by much more, those that want SSM legalized in the Gallup poll shows 55% versus 58% for marijuanna. I'd hardly call 3% difference significant.
    It's significant because only two states have legalized marijuana, while the number that have legalized homosexual marriage is in the teens and expected nationwide even though a greater percentage of people want marijuana legalized. You don't have to think it's interesting.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I support stopping government involvement in marriage.
    Non sequitur.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

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    I support stopping government involvement in marriage.
    Yeah. Because it's better if the government can force you to testify against your spouse or subjects your spouse to an estate tax upon your death.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    If you want to know what a community without marriage looks like, just look at "the black community" where more than 72% of all births are out of wedlock. It's a window into what happens to a society when marriage isn't the fundamental building block of the social structure.
    Great! So you're in favor of encouraging more marriage by legalizing same-sex marriage, I expect. Certainly would promote more stable family units among "the gay community," right?
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    You are making irrational leaps of illogic. The fact that the government must be involved in marriage for it to exist since it's a state sanctioned institution isn't proof that society is better off or worse off whether homosexuals are allowed to marry or not. Marriage is good for society but whether marriage should be expanded to include homosexual couples is a different issue and one that I don't have time to argue. It should be enough for you to argue from the "libertarian" perspective that government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all (if you're actually a libertarian).
    Same-sex couples don't need to prove a benefit to society to you.

    It's odd that you "don't have time to argue" whether or not same-sex marriage should be legal in a thread asking exactly that question.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Great! So you're in favor of encouraging more marriage by legalizing same-sex marriage, I expect. Certainly would promote more stable family units among "the gay community," right?
    You would be making a rational point if "same-sex marriage" wasn't an oxymoron. H2O is a good thing but that doesn't mean that every couple hydrogen atoms is just as good (or every couple Oxygen atoms). Oxygen has to combine with hydrogen in order for it to be water. I know. That makes me a molecule-o-phobe.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Same-sex couples don't need to prove a benefit to society to you.

    It's odd that you "don't have time to argue" whether or not same-sex marriage should be legal in a thread asking exactly that question.
    It's asking us for our opinion, not demanding everyone participating to engage in yet another pointless debate between the advocates of homosexuality and those that think homosexual marriage is an oxymoron.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Frankly I'm surprised the percentages are only in the 50+% range.
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