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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Oh like we're making some sort of deal or something.

    Don't count your chickens...
    Why? The Youth of America and I mean everyone under 40 overwhelmingly supports gay marriage. Even in places like Utah. You could win every judicial battle and you're still doomed. The literal march of gay marriage supporters will overwhelm those opposed.

    It is not a rational reason to be legally opposed to something because you find it to be icky.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If one is going to destroy another's position, doing so thoroughly is certainly the way to go.
    Cause that fosters so much debate....
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    My religion does not, so I reject your definition of sin as subjective.

    You mean your church has decided to be culturally sensitive and overlook some of it's tenets.

    So I reject their stance and your support of it.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Why? The Youth of America and I mean everyone under 40 overwhelmingly supports gay marriage. Even in places like Utah. You could win every judicial battle and you're still doomed. The literal march of gay marriage supporters will overwhelm those opposed.

    It is not a rational reason to be legally opposed to something because you find it to be icky.
    Texas voters overwhelmingly voted that marriage should only be between one man and one woman. Of course that was in 2006. We'd be willing to put it to a vote again if it's allowed to stick.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You mean your church has decided to be culturally sensitive and overlook some of it's tenets.

    So I reject their stance and your support of it.
    So,....you're most closely connected to these people:



    than these:

    Presbyterians vote to allow gay marriage | Religion News Service

    (RNS) The Presbyterian Church (USA) voted Thursday (June 19) to allow gay and lesbian weddings within the church, making it among the largest Christian denominations to take an embracing step toward same-sex marriage.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So,....you're most closely connected to these people:



    than these:

    Presbyterians vote to allow gay marriage | Religion News Service
    I'm closely aligned with the word of God not any particular church.
    You can make me out to be whatever you want, it won't change the truth.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    The attack on the Constitution continues.
    Enforcing the Constitution is not attacking it.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I see we are now in fantasy land. Race is a different issue than sex. The attack on the Constitution continues. It will eventually be allowed in all states, but that doesn't mean that the federal government has ever been granted any power by the Constitution to force states to do it.

    I don't believe in it, but if a state okay's it, so be it. If a federal judge subverts the will of the people in a state, and forces it on them, I've got a problem with that. Everyone should have a problem with that. But I know the left, and it's quite alright, if they get there way, the Constitution be damned.
    Race was being used to limit a legal institution where race has no impact on the ability of the people to perform the required legal expectations of them within that institution/contract. Because race has nothing to do with a person's ability to be a legal spouse, race based restrictions on marriage were struck down. Sex is being used to limit a legal institution where sex has no impact on the ability of the people to perform the required legal expectations of them within that institution/contract. Because sex has nothing to do with a person's ability to be a legal spouse, sex based restrictions on marriage need to be struck down. It is that simple. And it is completely within the Constitution. In fact, this is exactly the type of thing the Constitution is meant for, to strike down laws that either the federal or state government make that have absolutely no legal or rational basis, but are just there because some people feel something is "wrong" or "icky" or "not normal".
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I'm closely aligned with the word of God not any particular church.
    You can make me out to be whatever you want, it won't change the truth.
    Combined with your previous post below...I'll just take that as a "yes".

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    My faith requires me to rebuke sin where I see it.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Texas voters overwhelmingly voted that marriage should only be between one man and one woman. Of course that was in 2006. We'd be willing to put it to a vote again if it's allowed to stick.
    Would you be willing to put it to a vote every 2-4 years? We know what the polls show on this matter. From the numbers we have, from polling, we know that the change is happening with time. So if you took a vote every 2-4 years mandatory within all these states that have these bans, it would be obvious that the change was coming, even if it didn't happen for several votes because older people (more likely to oppose same sex marriage) die off, and younger people (more likely to support same sex marriage) become old enough to vote. In fact, such a policy would most likely cause it to change faster because those who oppose same sex marriage would almost certainly get tired of having to vote for something that they could see through results was turning against them.

    This is why though we use the Courts, as we should, to protect rights, especially when the writing is on the wall, rather than leaving it to voters. People shouldn't have to wait until the majority decides to give them equal protection of the laws by vote.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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