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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    I am against legalizing gay marriage. It violates natural law. Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law. It Always Denies a Child Either a Father or a Mother. It is in the child’s best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent.
    1) Natural law is a fallacy.
    2) Research shows that children do as well with parents of the same sex and they do with opposite sex parents.
    3) Everything you cited as an "example" was everything BUT two same sex parents.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    Well, they still bring up children. And this is a problem. Education of person by same sex parents, surrounded by same-sex couples, can lead (and probably will) to the non-recognition of his gender identity in principle. That is, children will grow as an asexual being. The precedent was when 11-year-old boy who was adopted by two lesbians, said that he denies his gender identity and wants to be like a "two mothers." In this regard, moms started to feed him by hormonal drugs, which have detrimental effect on physical health in this age. Also, because of this education, the psyche of a boy suffered so much that he can not perceive himself as he is
    All research proves what you said above has not validity. Thought you'd like to know that so you can adjust your position.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

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    CC I can'tt do that because people like me are in the silent majority and we never get polled............
    Excuses, excuses. Of course you get polled. And the "majority" says that SSM is OK. You'd think that if there actually was a "silent majority" who are against SSM, they'd speak out... but since there isn't one, this can't happen.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There is a silent majority on every issue....I belong to the Fleet Reserve Association and we have over 100 members and none have ever been polled on SSM.
    And I've never been polled, either... nor any of my friends who support SSM. WE are the "silent majority", and we support SSM.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Many other religions see it as either a sin, abnormality or unnatural. It's far from being just a personal decision.

    Homosexuality Comparison Chart - ReligionFacts
    My religion does not, so I reject your definition of sin as subjective.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Guess the founders never envisioned the patent sinfulness of the 21 century.

    Let's put it to a vote.
    The founders also created a document that helped prevent the majority from oppressing the minority. Let's not put it to a vote.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As usual that is pure crap....Me and many of my fellow Vets would love to be polled.
    So would me and my friends.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    I am against legalizing gay marriage. It violates natural law. Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law. It Always Denies a Child Either a Father or a Mother. It is in the child’s best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent.
    So marriage is just about children then?

    What about straights who can't or won't have kids? Should we bar or dissolve their marriages too?

    Furthermore, the notion of natural law is really whatever the person who is citing natural law wants it to mean.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I see we are now in fantasy land. Race is a different issue than sex. The attack on the Constitution continues. It will eventually be allowed in all states, but that doesn't mean that the federal government has ever been granted any power by the Constitution to force states to do it.

    I don't believe in it, but if a state okay's it, so be it. If a federal judge subverts the will of the people in a state, and forces it on them, I've got a problem with that. Everyone should have a problem with that. But I know the left, and it's quite alright, if they get there way, the Constitution be damned.
    At minimum the COTUS does grant the Federal government the power to force each state to recognize the legitimacy of marriages from other states under I believe the Commerce Clause. So if we actually followed the COTUS, gay marriage should have been legal nationwide with the first state to do it. We were actually violating the COTUS when we allowed states to ignore other states' gay marriages.
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