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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Hey you want to cheat and avoid the legal penalties?...get a divorce first.

    Stop it with the Fundie crap.
    There is no law against cheating though, not anymore (not enforced outside of the military in this country anyway). This is because that should be between the two people. It is none of yours or society's business if someone cheats on their spouse. Just as it is really none of your business if someone borrows another person's car and gives it back with damage and/or an empty gas tank. That is a civil matter between them. It doesn't involve you and it absolutely should not involve charges of any kind.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Government should not have the right to define the relationships of two consenting adults. Nor should it have the right to control what two consenting adults do to each other, sexually or otherwise.

    That's a conservative position, whether you personally agree with homosexuality or not.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Y'all are pretty good at talking behind someone's back.

    I don't fear anything but God's wrath. Especially not you, sweetie.
    If it's posted here...how is it, 'behind your back?'

    Oh wait, you may not know if you have someone on Ignore.

    LOL

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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well before you go playing mod, re-read my statements, I'm attacking his comments which IS allowed. Also, yes, I can prove his comments hypocritical because he had stated that three is nothing he can do about divorce, adultery, etc. yet he goes after SSM. That IS hypocritical when he says a sin is a sin.

    So if you don't like my statements you have some choices. Report them, ignore them, or go pound sand.
    Agreed. Hypocrisy is supportable by evidence, such as what is posted here.

    It's not an attack...it's pointing out dishonesty and/or lack of awareness/perception in posting.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    To be fair, WCH did say he wished adultery would be illegal.
    However he has in the past been unable to describe why he and his church or others have ever stood up and campaigned to prevent adulterers and fornicators from marrying. They condemn them with words perhaps, but do nothing to infringe on their ability to marry. They only speak out to *prevent* gays.

    THerein lies the hypocrisy IMO (or 1 example)....they do treat gays differently from other sinners yet cannot explain why. And they havent been able to show any harm that SSM or gays do. While it's very evident that adultery does indeed harm individuals and marriage.

    He has chosen to ignore me after I continually pressed him for an answer on this....because he was unable to explain. Yet the hypocrisy remains in print....
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    I got it. A bit stale, but I got it. I'm sure most people did too.

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    That's true. But this message board also lacks a significant number of rational human beings, so I let tags slide. Also, it is a sad reality that I can totally understand why my post wasn't obvious humor. This is the modern world we live in, and I shake my head.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    read this closely:

    I DENOUNCE ANYONE WHO CHEATS ON THEIR MARRIAGE PARTNER!
    But how actively have you spoken out against making it illegal for those adulterers to remarry? Have you started a movement, to align with the movement against SSM? You and your church?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    a Fundamentalist I'm not. I don't want Gays corrupting the sanctity marriage and would like cheaters [in a relationship] to pay some sort of price for their indiscretions and you make me out to be a tyrant. 8)

    Assumptions
    So I'll ask again. How does SSM affect the sanctity of YOUR marriage?

    Does your God have an 'all in, all out' clause? If thats the case we're all destined for Hell, since...hate to tell you this...only about 30% of the world is even Christian. Buddhists, Jews, Muslims...the list is endless believe in many things which would consider mortal sins.

    Does their very existent invalidate any of your beliefs, or affect the sanctity of your vows?
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And that is your personal position. You also have the right to personally do that. However, that doesn't mean that everyone should or does, nor does it mean that it should be illegal to cheat on your marriage partner, despite your beliefs that cheating on your spouse is wrong.
    State laws that criminalize adultery rest on the same basis as laws that make crimes of all sort of other sex-related acts--adult incest, bestiality, prostitution, bigamy, polygamy, and so on. And that is the belief of the majority in a state that those acts are immoral and unacceptable.

    If that is no longer a good enough reason for the people of a state to exclude same-sex partners from their marriage laws, it will no longer be a good enough reason to prohibit these other acts, either. If it were unconstitutional to exclude same-sex partners from marriage laws, why would it not also be unconstitutional to continue to exclude partners who were more closely related by blood than some specified degree--i.e. partners in adult incest? You know--equal protection, and all that.

    The intellectual dishonesty--or maybe it is just lack of intellect--on display in many people who assert that something in the Constitution prohibits any state from excluding same-sex partners from its marriage laws is stunning. What they are desperate to deny is that declaring a constitutional right to same-sex marriage would remove the basis for laws against a wide range of other acts.

    These people want to have their pet activity declared a right, and then, once that's done, arbitrarily deny people the right to engage in public nudity, bestiality, public masturbation, adult incest, bigamy, polygamy and so on. It's funny to watch them try to cook up harmful consequences that legalizing these things would supposedly have, since that is the very thing they constantly accuse people who oppose declaring same-sex marriage a constitutional right of doing. I can't just see the would-be adulterers, nudists, bestialists, etc., furiously accusing everyone of bigotry for denying them their equal rights.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post

    The intellectual dishonesty--or maybe it is just lack of intellect--on display in many people who assert that something in the Constitution prohibits any state from excluding same-sex partners from its marriage laws is stunning. What they are desperate to deny is that declaring a constitutional right to same-sex marriage would remove the basis for laws against a wide range of other acts.
    .
    Yes, you keep posting that but it misses its mark everytime. Since we know better Shows a real weakness in your position, to try and belittle opponents.

    And btw, so do nearly all the courts so far on this issue.....since they are not finding on your claims at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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