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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's neither here nor there, cheating is cheating in my eyes. They are all sinful.

    The discussion is not whether heteros can marry or how many get divorced, it's about Gays.
    Yes, but there is a difference in being MARRIED and being a COUPLE. In fact, other studies have proven you wrong in the fact that married gay couples are in fact monogamous more than non-married gay couples which is the same as heterosexuals.

    And no a sin is not a sin to you because you go after one, but not the other. So you are quite hypocritical in your comments.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, but there is a difference in being MARRIED and being a COUPLE. In fact, other studies have proven you wrong in the fact that married gay couples are in fact monogamous more than non-married gay couples which is the same as heterosexuals.

    And no a sin is not a sin to you because you go after one, but not the other. So you are quite hypocritical in your comments.
    It's amazing how many times WCH can be proven wrong, yet he'll still post the same damn links to the same pathetically ignorant "studies" and crap he just can't bring himself to understand.

    I'm glad some people still take the time to "out" his ignorance. [pun intended]

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No I only referred to MY OWN MARRIAGE
    In post #874, you said specifically

    I wouldn't mind seeing a law against adultery.
    Laws apply to everyone, not just you.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I first spun out an analogy to public nudity to poke fun at the vapid, uninformed assertions I've seen on various threads that same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
    Is that what they are? You do realize that the same can be said about your opinion, which is the result on doubt of a lack of understanding of rights and the Constitution.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    It's amazing how many times WCH can be proven wrong, yet he'll still post the same damn links to the same pathetically ignorant "studies" and crap he just can't bring himself to understand.

    I'm glad some people still take the time to "out" his ignorance. [pun intended]
    As I said before I don't think his comments are homophobic because I don't think they are based on fear, but they are definitely ignorant in regards to gays and the gay community.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    For me, the "terrorists win" part was the give-away that his post was in jest.

    Not that familiar with his posting yet.


    However I've been on message boards for about 10 years now and routinely see people refer to homosexuals as:


    .....Terrorist

    ..........Abominations

    ...............Child ****ers (i.e. pedophiles)

    ....................they have an agenda to destroy Christians

    .........................etc., etc.



    With the history of posts (not his specifically of course) there is no reason to disbeleive that it was said in humor.


    @polisciguy - Since it was, said in humor that is, my apologies for misunderstanding.



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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
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    I know what it says. It also lays out all the possibilities. And yes it is just one person's opinion.

    This is the study. Relationship Characteristics and Motivations behind Agreements among Gay Male Couples: Differences by Agreement Type and Couple Serostatus
    That link does what to refute the fact that Homosexual married couples clearly do take their marriages seriously. What does HIV prevention have to do with anything we are discussing? My links effectively established that not only do homosexuals enjoy monogamous relationships they thrive in them.

    In places where gay men and women are constantly accosted by ridicule and intolerance and marriage is not an option. In places where being able to facilitate a healthy relationship is not possible, because one or both partners are afraid of alienation from their community. In these such places, which exists on a large scale, many homosexuals do turn to easier flighty relations, because it's easier to hide. They are effectively forced into the shadows of night living. Clubbing and racing through people, because having a real relationship isn't a feasible option for every homosexual. Especially the ones that live in hostile territory.

    That is where the dubious behavior takes place. In the utopia you dream of where homosexuals are forced to stay hidden they, in turn, can not possibly form meaningful relationships if any relationship they do pursue is marred by the ever looming fear of being outed and judged. It creates a handicap in their judgement. humans, by and large, need to form intimate connections - so expecting homosexuals to stay hidden and simultaneously be scrupulous in their sexual behavior is a ridiculous standard.

    You want to see gay men form better relationships then stop trying push them out of societies. Fight for a society where gay men and women can walk proudly in the open without fear. Be a part of the movement that will allow real gay relationships to be formed. Because as long as people like you exist in surplus homosexuals will continue to have issues with healthy relationships whilst your kin continues to breathe down their neck.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those who take their vows (before God or not) seriously are the 50% who stay married. That's quite a lot of people.

    I already posted an article stating homosexuals who are married don't take monogamy (nor the marriage itself) seriously. Here's another.

    Were Christians Right About Gay Marriage All Along? - The Daily Beast
    So? And I'm betting that over half of straight marriages are not strictly monogamous either. And it is worse when that lack of monogamy isn't an agreed upon thing because then there really is cheating going on. It actually is breaking a commitment to someone if you are in some sort of intimate relationship with someone else besides your spouse yet agreed to be in such a relationship only with your spouse.

    Monogamy: Gay Men, Lesbians, And Straights The Dish

    So in reality, at least gays agree to be in open relationships, instead of betraying promises about being only in intimate relationships with that person they are married to like many opposite sex couples feel obligated to do.

    I would much rather the person I love and am in an intimate relationship with me tell me the issue, tell me that they need more sex or something else that they don't feel I can give them, than go behind my back and cheat on me, not tell me that they are sleeping with someone else. The not telling me puts me at much higher risk than telling me and seeing what can be worked out.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    As I said before I don't think his comments are homophobic because I don't think they are based on fear, but they are definitely ignorant in regards to gays and the gay community.
    I agree with you 100% with one exception.

    Fear is a huge part of WCH's stance on this.

    He's posted as such about a million times.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's exactly how the Progressive LBGQT community feels..

    Were Christians Right About Gay Marriage All Along? - The Daily Beast
    Okay. And I don't consider it a bad thing. Just as I don't consider it a bad thing that divorce is now legal. I don't consider it a bad thing that we no longer consider a legal marriage continuous consent to sex. I don't consider it a bad thing that women are not sold or given away into marriage by their fathers. I don't consider it a bad thing that we choose who we marry instead of our families. I don't consider it a bad thing that interracial and interfaith couples are allowed to legally marry and face very little (comparative to before) persecution for their relationships. These are all parts of "traditional marriage" that have gone away, just as soon "marriage is only between a man and a woman" as a legal belief of this land will be gone. Some people may still hold this belief, as some still hold all those beliefs on those things above being traditionally right.

    I find it very funny that so many want to denounce homosexuals for not being monogamous in their marriages, especially Christians, when Abraham himself had sexual relations outside of his marriage.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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