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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Some traditions need to be torn down. In reality though, "traditional marriage" never really existed the way many want to believe it did to begin with.
    That's exactly how the Progressive LBGQT community feels..

    Were Christians Right About Gay Marriage All Along? - The Daily Beast
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those who take their vows (before God or not) seriously are the 50% who stay married. That's quite a lot of people.

    I already posted an article stating homosexuals who are married don't take monogamy (nor the marriage itself) seriously. Here's another.

    Were Christians Right About Gay Marriage All Along? - The Daily Beast
    Sorry but I know MANY who have taking their vows before "their god" and got divorced even in the Roman Catholic religion. And to paint ALL gays with a broad-brush that they don't take monogamy seriously is idiotic at best. Even the author doesn't claim the conclusions you do.

    I wouldn't call your comments homophobic, but your comments are incredibly ignorant when it comes to gays and the gay community. The fact remains, take care of your 50% heterosexual divorce rate before you attack someone else.

    BTW, my wife and I did NOT take our vows before God and our marriage has been just fine. The secret isn't getting married under God, the secret is understanding, communication, and forgiveness. That can be done with ANY marriage.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sorry but I know MANY who have taking their vows before "their god" and got divorced even in the Roman Catholic religion. And to paint ALL gays with a broad-brush that they don't take monogamy seriously is idiotic at best. Even the author doesn't claim the conclusions you do.

    I wouldn't call your comments homophobic, but your comments are incredibly ignorant when it comes to gays and the gay community. The fact remains, take care of your 50% heterosexual divorce rate before you attack someone else.

    BTW, my wife and I did NOT take our vows before God and our marriage has been just fine. The secret isn't getting married under God, the secret is understanding, communication, and forgiveness. That can be done with ANY marriage.
    This was the study in question. Relationship Characteristics and Motivations behind Agreements among Gay Male Couples: Differences by Agreement Type and Couple Serostatus

    I'm happy for your marriage but, there's nothing I can do about the ones that fail.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those who take their vows (before God or not) seriously are the 50% who stay married. That's quite a lot of people.

    I already posted an article stating homosexuals who are married don't take monogamy (nor the marriage itself) seriously. Here's another.

    Were Christians Right About Gay Marriage All Along? - The Daily Beast
    You should probably read the articles you post.

    Not only is that article an opinion piece and nothing else, the author isn't supporting your claim.

    Personally, I’m not on board with either the progressive or the conservative doomsday scenarios. Unlike the radicals, I don’t think straight people need the gays to perpetuate (or destroy) the institution of marriage, and I don’t think gays were ever as liberation-minded as the romantic history suggests. And unlike the conservatives, I don’t think a few non-monogamous gay couples will turn the world into Studio 54; once again, philandering televangelists don’t need queers to teach them how to sleep around.

    But I do like the notion of same-sex marriage as a liberation gateway drug. Inclusion of LGBT people within institutions like marriage will eventually transform those institutions, just as including women, non-whites, non-Anglos, and non-Christians has done. The experiences and perspectives of LGBT people are different from those of straight people, and different in a good way.
    Gay Marriage: States That Allow Same-Sex Unions Have Lower Divorce Rates



    Divorce & Marriage Rates for Same-Sex Couples*|*Frederick Hertz

    1. Nearly 150,000 same-sex couples have either married or registered civil unions or domestic partnerships, which constitutes about one-fifth of same-sex couples in the U.S. (or rather, a fifth of those who acknowledged themselves as such in recent United States Census reports).

    2. About 1% of the total number of currently-married or registered same-sex couples get divorced each year, in comparison to about 2% of the total number of married straight couples. Note that the percentage of couples that get divorced eventually is close to 50%, but only 1% or 2% of them get divorced in any particular year.
    Same-sex divorce rate lower than heterosexual couples



    In other word, but not surprisingly, your bigotry is easily dismissed.
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's exactly how the Progressive LBGQT community feels..

    Were Christians Right About Gay Marriage All Along? - The Daily Beast
    So once again, back to the killer question from SCOTUS. What harm does gay marriage do to straight marriage? Religious morality is a personal thing.

    You can decide that gay's will burn in Hell based on religious beliefs, but how does it, effect or diminish your straight marriage if they marry?

    Humans have always had a percentage of the population that have been gay, Somehow I don't believe gay marriage it's going to send the rest of us gay and find a boyfriend, and suddenly discover our Gay Self!
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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    What if they were strident crusaders who were determined to force their views on everyone else, so that they wouldn't feel like the deviants they are?
    You mean like the self righteous religious zealots who wish to impose their dogma driven ignorance on society? Is that why they shout at people at abortion clinics, soldiers funerals, etc etc? I agree deviants like the religious right have to be marginalized so that the rest of people can enjoy their freedom.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    This was the study in question. Relationship Characteristics and Motivations behind Agreements among Gay Male Couples: Differences by Agreement Type and Couple Serostatus

    I'm happy for your marriage but, there's nothing I can do about the ones that fail.
    That study had to deal with Gay COUPLES, not married gay couples. You do realize that heterosexual couples are more likely to not be monogamous than married ones right?

    Ah I see, you can't do anything about heterosexual marriages that fail, but you want to prevent gay couples from marrying. That makes NO sense whatseover. You ignore one sin but go after another. Pretty Hypocritical.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    You should probably read the articles you post.

    Not only is that article an opinion piece and nothing else, the author isn't supporting your claim.



    Gay Marriage: States That Allow Same-Sex Unions Have Lower Divorce Rates



    Divorce & Marriage Rates for Same-Sex Couples*|*Frederick Hertz



    Same-sex divorce rate lower than heterosexual couples



    In other word, but not surprisingly, your bigotry is easily dismissed.
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    I know what it says. It also lays out all the possibilities. And yes it is just one person's opinion.

    This is the study. Relationship Characteristics and Motivations behind Agreements among Gay Male Couples: Differences by Agreement Type and Couple Serostatus
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
    Matt. 10:32-33

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
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    I know what it says. It also lays out all the possibilities. And yes it is just one person's opinion.

    This is the study. Relationship Characteristics and Motivations behind Agreements among Gay Male Couples: Differences by Agreement Type and Couple Serostatus
    Again, the study you posted has to do with gay COUPLES not MARRIED gay couples. There is a big difference there.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That study had to deal with Gay COUPLES, not married gay couples. You do realize that heterosexual couples are more likely to not be monogamous than married ones right?

    Ah I see, you can't do anything about heterosexual marriages that fail, but you want to prevent gay couples from marrying. That makes NO sense whatseover. You ignore one sin but go after another. Pretty Hypocritical.
    That's neither here nor there, cheating is cheating in my eyes. They are all sinful.

    The discussion is not whether heteros can marry or how many get divorced, it's about Gays.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
    Matt. 10:32-33

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