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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I never said YOU had to do anything.
    Good news! Same-sex marriage doesn't require you to do anything either.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It was the business owners in Oregon
    No, again, that's an issue with public accommodation laws. They weren't discriminated against because they were Christian. They were required to serve homosexuals because Oregon public accommodation laws don't allow any business to discriminate on sexuality. Or religion. Do you want it to be legal to put a "No Jews" or "No Blacks" sign on my store? What if my religious beliefs would lead me to do that?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    It can't be long before a militant nudism movement arises, inspired by other strident grievance groups to demand their rights. I can just see them shrieking angrily at "xtian haters" who want to deny them the right to go nude in public, just because they feel ashamed of sex and nudity and want to force their puritanical, xtian beliefs on everyone else. "Take your god-based bull and shove it--you don't have the right to tell me and mine how to live!!!"

    I imagine these crusaders will ape the black civil rights movement, shamelessly trying to compare the restrictions that peeve them to Jim Crow while adding their own cute symbols and bumper-sticker slogans. "Bare is Fair!" Maybe they'll borrow a page from the homosexuals, and purposely go nude into small bakeries to order the cakes for their nude weddings. They could keep this up until they found a baker who was scandalized enough to refuse their business, and then sue him for discrimination.

    I expect militant nudists will claim that just as with same-sex marriage, the state laws that frustrate them are arbitrary, because the government can't show how nudism hurts anyone. Even if public nudity is legal on certain beaches, etc., they will howl that their lifestyle deserves to be recognized everywhere, just like the clothed lifestyle is. And even if their own state had made public nudity legal everywhere, it wouldn't be enough--they'd insist that it was a constitutional right, so that every other state had to legalize it, too.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you want it to be legal to put a "No Jews" or "No Blacks" sign on my store? What if my religious beliefs would lead me to do that?
    I realize you weren't asking me, but of course I want any state to be free to allow that kind of private discrimination, allow it with certain restrictions, or forbid it, however the majority of its people sees fit. I'm sure you know all about the state action requirement in Fourteenth Amendment cases. I'm sure you also know about the limitations of both the fifth section of that amendment and the second section of the Thirteenth, when it comes to private discrimination.

    If you think something in the federal Constitution prohibits discrimination by private individuals, please tell us--specifically--what you think that something is. The "Icky and Yucky Clause," maybe? The "Just Be Nice Clause?" The "Because We Say So Clause?"

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Waiting for Sodom and Gomorrah 2 to hit. And if and when it comes know that people like you helped it along.
    denying civil same sex marriage is preventing the rapture. oookkkaayyy......{sarcasm intended}
    From the ashes.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It was the business owners in Oregon

    The business owners in Oregon can't discriminate based on religion either.



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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    It says get off your own throne so God can assume his rightful place. Got it?
    Woooooshhhhhhhhhh…………

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, again, that's an issue with public accommodation laws. They weren't discriminated against because they were Christian. They were required to serve homosexuals because Oregon public accommodation laws don't allow any business to discriminate on sexuality. Or religion. Do you want it to be legal to put a "No Jews" or "No Blacks" sign on my store? What if my religious beliefs would lead me to do that?

    I'm fine with removing PA laws and allowing businesses to decline service to customers for any reason including race, religion, body odor, rudeness, sexual orientation, etc.

    I think though that they should be required to file an intent to discriminate (or not) to the business licensing bureau, have it on file and have to prominently display it in their business and make note of discriminatory practices in advertizing.

    What the law should be and the reality of what the law is are two different discussions through.



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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    It can't be long before a militant nudism movement arises, inspired by other strident grievance groups to demand their rights. I can just see them shrieking angrily at "xtian haters" who want to deny them the right to go nude in public, just because they feel ashamed of sex and nudity and want to force their puritanical, xtian beliefs on everyone else. "Take your god-based bull and shove it--you don't have the right to tell me and mine how to live!!!"

    I imagine these crusaders will ape the black civil rights movement, shamelessly trying to compare the restrictions that peeve them to Jim Crow while adding their own cute symbols and bumper-sticker slogans. "Bare is Fair!" Maybe they'll borrow a page from the homosexuals, and purposely go nude into small bakeries to order the cakes for their nude weddings. They could keep this up until they found a baker who was scandalized enough to refuse their business, and then sue him for discrimination.

    I expect militant nudists will claim that just as with same-sex marriage, the state laws that frustrate them are arbitrary, because the government can't show how nudism hurts anyone. Even if public nudity is legal on certain beaches, etc., they will howl that their lifestyle deserves to be recognized everywhere, just like the clothed lifestyle is. And even if their own state had made public nudity legal everywhere, it wouldn't be enough--they'd insist that it was a constitutional right, so that every other state had to legalize it, too.
    You have just straight abandoned even pretending you were here for reasonable debate, haven't you?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You have just straight abandoned even pretending you were here for reasonable debate, haven't you?
    Is that what you are pretending to be here for?

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