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    Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team
    A senior, Richmond practiced with the team on Monday. Jefferson (Ohio) County's chief probation officer Fred Abdalla Jr. told WTRF-TV that there's no law keeping the 18-year-old from playing.
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    Ma’lik Richmond is back on the Steubenville HS football team.

    Richmond, one of the two teens convicted in the explosive rape case in city along the Ohio River, practiced with the team on Monday as a wide receiver.
    Richmond and quarterback Trent Mays were convicted in the case involving the rape of a 16-year-old girl at a August 2012 party. Richmond served nine months in a juvenile detention facility before being released in January. Mays is still serving a two-year sentence.

    “There’s no law against it that states he can’t play. There’s no OSHA rules that they’d be violating,” Fred Abdalla Jr., Jefferson County’s chief probation officer told WTRF


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    How disgusting. You can get kicked off a team for indecent behavior or smoking pot but rape, no, that's fine. You can play on the team after being a convicted felon. And btw, just 9 months? Granted, the other guy does 2 years but just 9 months for rape? What the hell is this? I get that it's juvenile detention center but I'd imagine there would be a pretty severe sentence for such a crime. 9 months is pathetic for such a crime. You think that girl can get over the fact that she was raped in 9 months? Not even adding the fact that she got bullied after school and online. Well, do you? Do you think 9 months is enough time to get over being raped?

    College football or highschool football seems to be the refuge of the scoundrels and they get off easy because it's "prestigious" for the schools. Bah, it's pathetic.

    Again, it's not the sentence of 9 months... 9 months... jesus christ... it's not that small sentence that is bothering me the most atm, it bothered me a year ago when it was given, what angers me to no end is the fact that he was allowed to return to the same school and back on the team.

    if I were a father in that school and I had my daughter going there, I'd pull her out and transfer her to any other school and encourage every other parent to do the same.

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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    If the other idiot, trent mays, what a stupid name,

    This prick:

    Also gets out of prison and suffers no real penalty to his glorious highschool football career, coz he was a "star athlete" too, that entire school should be burned to the ground along with the headmaster there and the coach because it seems to me that those people value some students over others and value rapists over decent kids. How disgusting.
    He still has 1 year in prison so we'll have to wait and see.

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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

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    How disgusting. You can get kicked off a team for indecent behavior or smoking pot but rape, no, that's fine. You can play on the team after being a convicted felon. And btw, just 9 months? Granted, the other guy does 2 years but just 9 months for rape? What the hell is this? I get that it's juvenile detention center but I'd imagine there would be a pretty severe sentence for such a crime. 9 months is pathetic for such a crime. You think that girl can get over the fact that she was raped in 9 months? Not even adding the fact that she got bullied after school and online. Well, do you? Do you think 9 months is enough time to get over being raped?

    College football or highschool football seems to be the refuge of the scoundrels and they get off easy because it's "prestigious" for the schools. Bah, it's pathetic.

    Again, it's not the sentence of 9 months... 9 months... jesus christ... it's not that small sentence that is bothering me the most atm, it bothered me a year ago when it was given, what angers me to no end is the fact that he was allowed to return to the same school and back on the team.

    if I were a father in that school and I had my daughter going there, I'd pull her out and transfer her to any other school and encourage every other parent to do the same.
    Yup, he should not have been allowed back to the school, period. I agree, if I had a daughter attending there, she would be on her way to private school immediately.

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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Spew your hatred. Get it out of your system.
    They served their time and will still be effected by having to register.
    If you are going to treat them this way, why not give them the death penalty huh?
    Or how about being reasonable and realizing that they served their time?


    What is he supposed to do? Drop out of school and live under a bridge for the rest of his life? That wouldn’t just be bad for Richmond—it would be bad for Steubenville, because a juvenile’s rehabilitation and reentry into society is integral to preventing rape in the future. As Irin Carmon wrote in Salon last year, the vast majority of juvenile sexual offenders—from 95 to 97 percent of them—who are caught, punished, and treated will never offend again. (And as Slate reported today, recidivism rates for sex offenders of all ages are actually much "lower than commonly believed.") As Mark Chaffin, professor of pediatrics at the University of Oklahoma College of Medicine and director of research at the Center on Child Abuse and Neglect told Carmon, “juvenile sex offenders are not simply younger versions of adult sex offenders,” and treating them the same would only impede our ability to prevent future crimes.

    Ma'lik Richmond returns to football in Steubenville: Let's let him get on with his life.
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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Spew your hatred. Get it out of your system.
    They served their time and will still be effected by having to register.
    If you are going to treat them this way, why not give them the death penalty huh?
    Or how about being reasonable and realizing that they served their time?
    How about realizing that they weren't adequately punished in the first place and you are allowing known rapists to come back to a school where they can potentially rape again? When this entire fiasco was taking place, we not only had people here blaming the victim, but the media as well was more than taking the side of these two rapists.
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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Spew your hatred. Get it out of your system.
    They served their time and will still be effected by having to register.
    If you are going to treat them this way, why not give them the death penalty huh?
    Or how about being reasonable and realizing that they served their time?
    Going to school and playing football aren't related to one another.
    He should be banned from the team, that's the bare minimum. But no, aside from having to check-him coz he's a registered sex offender, nothing's changed. He isn't the one who is traumatized, he isn't the one who faced online bullying. And lets not forget the rest of the thing on how the school and the superintended tried to cover up the rape because they didn't wanna lose their "star players". Disgusting. And they got like, some community service and 10 days suspension or smth. The details escape me. A joke anyway. This whole thing is a joke. Except the fact that a girl got raped, that's the only thing that isn't a joke. But from their punishment to the school reaction to this, all a joke. And not a "ha ha" joke, a ****ty one.

    You think 9 months is enough for that poor girl to get over what happened to her?

    There are minimal sentences for marijuana for 5 years for selling or 1 year for possesion, but rapists can get out quicker than that apparently. In fact, the US justice department found that sex offenders only serve half their time in prison, an average of 5.4 years. So rapists just get to spend a wee bit more time in jail than marijuana sellers. And apparently, 9 months in juvi and then he can play ball.

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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    I remember all the rape apologists whining about how "But it will ruin the poor boys' lives!" (well, gee, maybe shouldda thought of that before you raped this girl). But apparently not. Apparently it's ok to be a rapist. Sign of a fine, upstanding student. Yeah, they should totally represent the school.

    To be honest, I'm not even all that surprised anymore. I'm really not. Rape apologetics in this country has gotten unbelievable. People get out after a year or two for "good behavior" all the time.

    I checked the sex offender register a couple years back. Around here, they only list Level 3 -- serious sex offenses. Rape, child molestation, violent sexual attacks, that kind of thing. These aren't drunk college frat boys who mooned someone. These are serious predators.

    There are people who are 30-ish with 2 to 5 separate, severe sex convictions under their belt, who are somehow not in jail. That means that, most likely, none of their sentences exceeded a few years max, if they got sentenced back-to-back. In all likelihood, some of their sentences were only a few months long, or at least that's all they served. You get more than that for being caught with crack. People who rape women, or even children, sometimes walk away with a lighter sentence than a drug user. Let that sink in.

    Every park in the city has a ring of child molesters and rapists around it. It's the same the country over -- actually worse, in some places.

    People just don't even care anymore. It's all about how the poor rapist might have his life ruined. I wish that once in a while, that would actually happened. It should ruin your life. But it doesn't. Not in America. In America, being a football star is more important than protecting girls from rape.

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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Thank God he didn't take a hit off of a bong....

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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I remember all the rape apologists whining about how "But it will ruin the poor boys' lives!" (well, gee, maybe shouldda thought of that before you raped this girl). But apparently not. Apparently it's ok to be a rapist. Sign of a fine, upstanding student. Yeah, they should totally represent the school.

    To be honest, I'm not even all that surprised anymore. I'm really not. Rape apologetics in this country has gotten unbelievable. People get out after a year or two for "good behavior" all the time.

    I checked the sex offender register a couple years back. Around here, they only list Level 3 -- serious sex offenses. Rape, child molestation, violent sexual attacks, that kind of thing. These aren't drunk college frat boys who mooned someone. These are serious predators.

    There are people who are 30-ish with 2 to 5 separate, severe sex convictions under their belt, who are somehow not in jail. That means that, most likely, none of their sentences exceeded a few years max, if they got sentenced back-to-back. In all likelihood, some of their sentences were only a few months long, or at least that's all they served. You get more than that for being caught with crack. People who rape women, or even children, sometimes walk away with a lighter sentence than a drug user. Let that sink in.

    Every park in the city has a ring of child molesters and rapists around it. It's the same the country over -- actually worse, in some places.

    People just don't even care anymore. It's all about how the poor rapist might have his life ruined. I wish that once in a while, that would actually happened. It should ruin your life. But it doesn't. Not in America. In America, being a football star is more important than protecting girls from rape.
    The average sentence for rapists in america is 5.4 years. It should be over 10 years but most serve just half their sentence.

    Meanwhile, non-violent drug offenders (doesn't matter on which side of the argument you fall on, this just to point out the absurdity of it all) serve minimal sentences that for selling are 5 years, and there is no way to get out early. Just like you said, I was just bringing up the numbers.

    Somehow, for murder you can get the chair but for just traumatizing someone for the rest of their lives and have them live with it... yeah, that's just 5 years and a bit on average.
    That is if they don't suicide. Which is the situation as I will point below with a case in Montana.

    Why aren't you mad? Why aren't you going on the streets and protesting? Get angry. Get mad. The politicians don't give a damn. Their fat asses are safeguarded by capital police and those special bodyguards that all congressmen get. Grab a plank and start hitting them over the head with it.

    And then you get assholes like these peope:
    Montana judge defends one-month rape sentence - CNN.com
    Montana judge defends former teacher's one-month sentence for rape of teen
    Morales, the 14 years old, killed herself.


    Demand that what Florida did go for all the US. Hell, for all the world.
    Criminal Penalties for a Rape Conviction | sexoffenderattorney.com
    Mandatory Minimum Sentences
    Florida has attracted the attention of lawmakers from other states with its "Jessica's Law," which imposes stronger punishments as part of its mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines for those who commit certain sex crimes against children, including the conviction of statutory rape of a child. Massachusetts has also passed similar laws based on "Jessica's Law."
    As part of these more severe penalties, those convicted of statutory rape will face a minimum of a 10-year sentence if the child was under 12 years of age and the accused is at least 5 years older than the victim; or if the child is between the ages of 12 and 16 and the accused is 10 or more years older; or if the accused has a criminal history and is supposed to be a "mandatory reporter" (a person who because of his/her profession has contact with children and should be reporting crimes committed against children). These mandatory sentences are the minimum, the starting point; the sentences can be added to from there. The concept behind minimum sentencing is to deter would-be rapists, and provide punishment to those convicted.

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    Re: Ma’lik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yup, he should not have been allowed back to the school, period. I agree, if I had a daughter attending there, she would be on her way to private school immediately.
    I hear protests work wonders.
    Not much else we can do about it now. I only hope they have a conscience that gnaws on them for the rest of their lives and the girl will overcome this, instead of letting it beat her down.

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