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    Re: Ma値ik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It would be the very definition of "arbitrary" to make up a special rule just for this young man, but I digress. I've made my points and whether you accept them or reject them is up to you and it really doesn't matter since it's neither your decision or mine to make.
    It certainly doesn't require any special rule I know of in athletics to have standards of conduct and to kick off, or not allow players on, the team who violate them. And certainly getting convicted of RAPE should qualify in most sane programs as a serious violation of expected standards of conduct for people representing your school and your community on the playing field.

    And you're on a debate forum, for goodness sakes. Almost nothing discussed here related to decisions that are yours and mine to make.

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    Re: Ma値ik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Wide receiver? Damn! Now I'm kinda jealous. I wish I would have got to play against a rapist wide reciever when I was in high school.
    Well he was a tight end before going to prison....


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    Re: Ma値ik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The guy that was appointed by the people of Steubenville to sentence criminals found guilty of their crimes in Steubenville courts did his job and assigned the legal punishments that he thought fit the crime, the circumstances, and the law. People who don't like the decision can try to get either the law changed and stiffened - or get the judge removed and replaced. But we by rule of law and have to accept the outcomes the system we have established give us. It's either that or this....

    The lynching of black people and the arrest of rapists are two vastly different things.
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    Re: Ma値ik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The lynching of black people and the arrest of rapists are two vastly different things.
    And they weren't being equated or even compared so I don't understand the point of that non sequitur. You probably should have read the post before commenting on it.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Ma値ik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It certainly doesn't require any special rule I know of in athletics to have standards of conduct and to kick off, or not allow players on, the team who violate them. And certainly getting convicted of RAPE should qualify in most sane programs as a serious violation of expected standards of conduct for people representing your school and your community on the playing field.

    And you're on a debate forum, for goodness sakes. Almost nothing discussed here related to decisions that are yours and mine to make.
    I'm just sayin' you can't take your perspective too seriously on this. Judges do what judges do and then the rest of us get to criticize what they do whether we have any qualifications to make informed decisions about it or not. Right?
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Ma値ik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    And they weren't being equated or even compared so I don't understand the point of that non sequitur. You probably should have read the post before commenting on it.
    I did read the post. You said that if we didn't have the legal system, we have lynchings, which are completely different in causes and reason for occurring.
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    Re: Ma値ik Richmond, convicted in Steubenville rape case, returns to football team

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I did read the post. You said that if we didn't have the legal system, we have lynchings, which are completely different in causes and reason for occurring.
    Reading comprehension is your friend. Bone up on it.

    What I said was that if we don't honor and abide by our legal system then we find ourselves dealing with vigilante justice. Citizens aren't supposed to take the law into their own hands. Punishment is for the courts, not vigilantes. Get it now or are you still having a hard time wrapping your mind around this simple reality?
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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