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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Did you post to the wrong thread?
    No. Why do you ask?
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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    No. Why do you ask?
    Because the judge wasn't backing any law.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Where is that response?
    Not shown, but the Judge cites it in the decision. Read the decision, it's there in it's entirety.
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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    "In these related cases, Plaintiffs seek a preliminary injunction pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 65 barring Defendants from implementing various provisions of North Carolina Session Law 2013-381.... Defendants move for judgment on the pleadings pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(c). (Doc. 94.)"


    Sweetie-pie, it seems that the defendants didn't file "a counter" so much as they just asked for a summary judgment.

    The judge does indeed seem to have denied both the injunction and the request for a judgment, hun.
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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Does Holder golf? Might be time for about 4 rounds just to get over it.

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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Not shown, but the Judge cites it in the decision. Read the decision, it's there in it's entirety.
    But you don't know where I take it.
    You can't quote any of that language which says so, right?

    So the decision is pretty much exactly as Summerwind and I described it.
    But there's also some other counter suit going on as well.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    But you don't know where I take it.
    You can't quote any of that language which says so, right?
    Where you take what?

    So the decision is pretty much exactly as Summerwind and I described it.
    But there's also some other counter suit going on as well.
    No, not at all. You're glossing over that the complaint was filed and denied.
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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Where you take what?
    I take you don't know where the "defendant's response" is.

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    No, not at all. You're glossing over that the complaint was filed and denied.
    In that decision, the plaintiffs filed for an injunction. That was denied.
    The defendants filed for a summary judgment. That was also denied.

    That's about it for that decision.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Well that's bold faced mischaracterization of what happened. Let's try a more rational and accurate report....

    Could voter ID law tilt North Carolina Senate race? Foes decry judge's ruling (+video) - CSMonitor.com



    Basically the judge decided to do not much at all until the 2015 trial, he didn't give a win to either side.
    Technically, you're correct. But in my experience, courts habitually grant injunctions when they see the likelihood of a suit being successful and the potential for the plaintiff's suffering some form of harm without the injunction. This simply tells me that the judge wants to see the case go to trial, presumably to provide some guidance/closure, but that he doesn't believe it's likely to succeed in the end.
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    Re: DOJ loses NC voter ID case in federal court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I take you don't know where the "defendant's response" is.
    I told you I didn't see it. However it was referenced and if you know how the system works, you'd understand why this is unnecessary. The judge spells out what the defendant asked for.

    In that decision, the plaintiffs filed for an injunction. That was denied.
    The defendants filed for a summary judgment. That was also denied.

    That's about it for that decision.
    Which means further cases can be brought, however, this one was defeated.
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