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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The point is he'd just been shot. He's in a panic, flight or fight, it's wired into our DNA, no time to reason. If you want to blame him for running after that, you're just wanting a reason to blame Brown because the other instinct is to attack the person shooting you - he didn't do that.
    Fair enough, do you apply that same consideration to every shooting?

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    Which actions? Not sticking around after the cop starts shooting at them? Calmly reasoning with the police in the middle of a shooting? Right, I forgot..... And you assume Johnson is stirring race issues, not speaking the truth, but he's not a liar, just a thug.
    Asked and answered.

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    Right, because you think Johnson is a thug, but not lying, just getting coached, by the likes of a known race hustler, to stir a racial pot, etc. Can't believe I've made assumptions...
    Me neither, thanks for the insight into the mind of someone who goes to blaming race first.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Me neither, thanks for the insight into the mind of someone who goes to blaming race first.
    This is your quote: "Sharpton has been involved as coach in a string of incidents, it's what he does if there's race issues to be stirred."

    So, you said Johnson had obviously been coached, and then brought up Sharpton, because you do NOT believe Johnson is stirring race issues? So what was the point of bringing up coaching and Sharpton?

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

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    The police havent even interviewed one of the key witnesses. Many witnesses back up Johnson's claims as well. I think its pretty that the police know they did something incredibly wrong and are trying their best to disclose as least amount of information possible. [/FONT][/COLOR]

    The FBI is investigating as well.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nice assumption. No, I think young folks of any color or shape who disregard and shine on police, who throw gang signs in photos, who are willing to struggle with the police are presumptive thugs. But it's interesting that your mind works that way, going to race first.



    How about, sorry officer, we'll leave the street immediately. And then later, quit fighting dude, stay still and let the officer do his thing. And then, don't run, just get down on your belly and I'll call 911. Or how about keep reminding your buddy and the officer that you are unarmed and really don't want trouble. Hell, just anything but abandoning your buddy.



    Could be, not likely from what we know thus far, but could be.
    How is putting up a PEACE hand sign comparable to "throwing up gang signs"?
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And there we have the little angel picture being written. This same little angel was fighting with the police.
    I think I rather trust a black kid who has a positive outlook on life and is ready to go to college than some cop that has been writing reports and learning how to cover his own ass his whole carrer. I think I trust the non-tainted and jaded. Ive seen cops pad reports first hand. Havent you seen stories of DUI people proving their innocence when a cop is at fault for a car accident only to be ignored?

    It just seems more likely the cop was an asshole and wanted to kill someone. So he hit him with his door then tried to pull him into the car just so he can shoot him. Why would this kid with zero record be leaping into the cop car? It just doesnt make sense that way. Ive seen videos of cops shooting a surrendered "suspect". This cop prolly thought he was getting ignored/snubbed by a gangster and he ended up picking on good citizen who is willing to try to get away from danger, once he recognized teh cop was coercing him, until he was scared to death and then finished off.

    Its sad that we live in a world where you trust average joe's testimony more than a cop's. But in this case the witness has NOTHING to gain and the cop has EVERYTHING to lose. Cops have an entire lifelong carreer to worry about with pension at the end. I wouldn't trust a single thing they said unless the event was captured and recorded.

    Every single cop needs a gun that takes pictures as it fires and a helmet cam that always captures what they are looking at. Anything less is insanity and negligence from the top down.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    How is putting up a PEACE hand sign comparable to "throwing up gang signs"?
    The peace sign doesn't have the thumb extended. Really, you should read back on the thread.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I think I rather trust a black kid who has a positive outlook on life and is ready to go to college than some cop that has been writing reports and learning how to cover his own ass his whole carrer. I think I trust the non-tainted and jaded. Ive seen cops pad reports first hand. Havent you seen stories of DUI people proving their innocence when a cop is at fault for a car accident only to be ignored?

    It just seems more likely the cop was an asshole and wanted to kill someone. So he hit him with his door then tried to pull him into the car just so he can shoot him. Why would this kid with zero record be leaping into the cop car? It just doesnt make sense that way. Ive seen videos of cops shooting a surrendered "suspect". This cop prolly thought he was getting ignored/snubbed by a gangster and he ended up picking on good citizen who is willing to try to get away from danger, once he recognized teh cop was coercing him, until he was scared to death and then finished off.

    Its sad that we live in a world where you trust average joe's testimony more than a cop's. But in this case the witness has NOTHING to gain and the cop has EVERYTHING to lose. Cops have an entire lifelong carreer to worry about with pension at the end. I wouldn't trust a single thing they said unless the event was captured and recorded.

    Every single cop needs a gun that takes pictures as it fires and a helmet cam that always captures what they are looking at. Anything less is insanity and negligence from the top down.
    Isn't this all a little broad? There are rogue cops, absolutely. But to say that all of them are bad is a little much.

    some cop that has been writing reports and learning how to cover his own ass his whole carrer

    How do you know all of this about the cop in question?

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I think I rather trust a black kid who has a positive outlook on life and is ready to go to college than some cop that has been writing reports and learning how to cover his own ass his whole carrer. I think I trust the non-tainted and jaded. Ive seen cops pad reports first hand. Havent you seen stories of DUI people proving their innocence when a cop is at fault for a car accident only to be ignored?

    It just seems more likely the cop was an asshole and wanted to kill someone. So he hit him with his door then tried to pull him into the car just so he can shoot him. Why would this kid with zero record be leaping into the cop car? It just doesnt make sense that way. Ive seen videos of cops shooting a surrendered "suspect". This cop prolly thought he was getting ignored/snubbed by a gangster and he ended up picking on good citizen who is willing to try to get away from danger, once he recognized teh cop was coercing him, until he was scared to death and then finished off.

    Its sad that we live in a world where you trust average joe's testimony more than a cop's. But in this case the witness has NOTHING to gain and the cop has EVERYTHING to lose. Cops have an entire lifelong carreer to worry about with pension at the end. I wouldn't trust a single thing they said unless the event was captured and recorded.

    Every single cop needs a gun that takes pictures as it fires and a helmet cam that always captures what they are looking at. Anything less is insanity and negligence from the top down.
    Wow, just wow. What's sad is there are more people now that think like that. You haven't a clue what cops do on a daily basis. And if you think enrollment in a community college is an indication of virtue or positive outlook, there's just no hope of a clue.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The peace sign doesn't have the thumb extended. Really, you should read back on the thread.
    What does that "gang sign" mean? According to Urban Dictionary, it means peace and love....Urban Dictionary: peace sign with thumb

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wow, just wow. What's sad is there are more people now that think like that. You haven't a clue what cops do on a daily basis. And if you think enrollment in a community college is an indication of virtue or positive outlook, there's just no hope of a clue.
    So, gangsters frequently go to community college? I wasn't aware of that. It's to train them in the art of being a gang member or what? Surprised they offer classes in that at the local community college.

    And here's the thing - you're assuming these guys were 'thugs' based on FAR less than what dirtpoorchris is using to judge this police officer. The officer actually shot and killed an unarmed young man whose only 'crime' before being stopped by the cop was walking in the street, unarmed, talking to his friend. You believe he murdered Brown.

    Second, there isn't any evidence Brown had any kind of criminal record. So he was a gang member who stayed out of trouble through age 18, then decided to go to college? Sounds about right for a thug from the inner city.....

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