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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wow, just wow. How about because they are looters. That right there is an a big ****ing in your face clue they are wrong.
    They're wrong about the cop murdering Brown? That's what YOU say happened.

    I've never endorsed looting, rioting or violence in response to the incident, and do not endorse those reactions to the killing.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wow, just wow. How about because they are looters. That right there is an a big ****ing in your face clue they are wrong.
    Rioters + protesters = People that want to be heard

    Looters = assholes who see a moment of opportunity within the chaos to be greedy, and take it.

    Common sense.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm just noting the witness accounts that indicate Brown was unarmed, shot in the back, then shot multiple times after turning around and his hands up. And days have passed and nothing from the police to contradict any of it. The police haven't interviewed Johnson. We have no autopsy info and no confirmation of how many times and where Brown was shot etc. so based on all that, the evidence supports the "Looters."

    On what basis do you think the "Looters" are wrong?


    No your not.

    Youre using the witness accounts to convict the Police officer and to justify the outrage.

    The mobs of rioting " protesters " have done the same.

    There's no attempt on your part whatsoever to be objective in the least.

    I dont care if your sucseptible to a Mob mentallity, just dont pretend otherwise because your'e fooling no one.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Rioters + protesters = People that want to be heard

    Looters = assholes who see a moment of opportunity within the chaos to be greedy, and take it.

    Common sense.
    Rioters and looters are the same.

    Its a distinction without a difference

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    What would you do if african american police were routinely killing white people who were just "walking while white?"

    I don't have to think too hard as to your answer.
    The issue is cops killing thugs... I don't see a race issue. I see a bad cop issue and wannabe and real thugs creating problems.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No need to paint anyone ...they paint themselves...
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    Correct. It is the inability of others to correctly identify people for who they are that is the problem. With whatever blinders of hate you have on it is clear that the issue is yours.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Rioters and looters are the same.

    Its a distinction without a difference
    Thats idiotic. Not even going to argue with you if you are going to pretend there isnt a difference.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    that could be any teenager.
    Are you suggesting that we shoot all teenagers?
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No your not.

    Youre using the witness accounts to convict the Police officer and to justify the outrage.
    Yes, I'm using witness accounts. More than one witness. I read the twitter feed last night of a guy who saw the whole thing happen from his window - saw Brown running, get shot in the back, turned around, shot several more times. This was a real time account.

    And the police have released nothing. So what other basis should we be making decisions?

    Let's put it this way - if that was your son killed, how would you be making decisions about the behavior of the cops that day? Witnesses' accounts, consistent with each other from the beginning, seems to be a decent way to make preliminary judgments at least.

    The mobs of rioting " protesters " have done the same.

    There's no attempt on your part whatsoever to be objective in the least.

    I dont care if your sucseptible to a Mob mentallity, just dont pretend otherwise because your'e fooling no one.
    I'm being as subjective as I know how to be. The police have allowed witness statements to be repeated again and again with no pushback from them or alternative accounts. So I go with the accounts that for now haven't been challenged in any way by the police. Not sure what else to do, objectively.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Yes, I'm using witness accounts. More than one witness. I read the twitter feed last night of a guy who saw the whole thing happen from his window - saw Brown running, get shot in the back, turned around, shot several more times. This was a real time account.
    Uh huh, and I'm sure those witnesses will be called to testify when this goes to trial. Until then, " witness accounts " don't equate to a guilty verdict. This isn't Salem, Massachusetts circa 1600's.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And the police have released nothing. So what other basis should we be making decisions?
    You shouldn't be making ANY decisions because you currently do not have access to all of the facts. That's the point of objectivity. If more people understood that there wouldn't have been riots, violence and looting following the incident.

    The Police can keep their mouths shut until the trial starts. They are not under any legal obligation to divulge any information currently and the Judge may even put a gag order on the attorney's and the parties involved until a Jury is finally selected.

    Too bad the looters, activist have already tainted the Jury pool. Guilty or not, this Cop deserves a fair trial and most likely they will have to move the trial out of Ferguson.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Let's put it this way - if that was your son killed, how would you be making decisions about the behavior of the cops that day? Witnesses' accounts, consistent with each other from the beginning, seems to be a decent way to make preliminary judgments at least.
    What does emotion have to do with objectivity or justice for that matter ? If the guilt or innocence of the accused were left up to the grieving parents of every murder victim we wouldn't need judges, or juries or court houses.

    We would just form up a posse, go hunt down the suspected murderer and hang him whether he was guilty or not. We've moved passed vigilante justice. We've moved past letting Mob rule determine guilt and punishment.


    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm being as subjective as I know how to be. The police have allowed witness statements to be repeated again and again with no pushback from them or alternative accounts. So I go with the accounts that for now haven't been challenged in any way by the police. Not sure what else to do, objectively.
    I know your'e being SUBJECTIVE. ALLOT of people are being subjective. In their opinion, this cop murdered a kid. Where has that led us ? More victims, more crime, violence, deaths.

    It also leaves one hell of a impression on psyche of the American public who're not prone to violent outburst. Do you think rioting and looting are endearing qualities ?

    Like it or not, the violence and destruction in Ferguson has a impact that extends way beyond that little town. Like it or not, the riots and the looting leave lasting impressions that are destructive to the African American community.
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