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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Protesters, rioters or looters? They are not synonymous.
    Do you think they came on separate buses from somewhere else. Alright folks, all protestors on this bus, all rioters on the other bus, and you looters, put that down!

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Ahh, the racialists set up a malformed strawman and think they have a point. Sad how it's all about color with you folks.
    And yet, you still have no way to explain a motive for this teen that justifies his killing. Such deflection.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Can't speak for Buck Ewer, but it doesn't bother me. I don't generally go around and see what everyone's opinion is, then decide if I should think a certain way based on who might or might not agree with me. I'm surprised that's how you go about making decisions. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but if you need to be led around like a sheep to know what to think, I guess that's OK.

    Lol...how hypocritcal of you.

    You people are the ones struggling to maintain any semblance of objectivity.

    You people are the ones who are perpetuating the same type of irresponsible assumptions that led to the riots.

    Declaring this cop guilty of all charges based on the mentallity and reaction of the Looters is the opposite of independant analysis BTW.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    And yet, you still have no way to explain a motive for this teen that justifies his killing. Such deflection.
    Explain, because that's nonsensical as written.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol...how hypocritcal of you.

    You people are the ones struggling to maintain any semblance of objectivity.

    You people are the ones who are perpetuating the same type of irresponsible assumptions that led to the riots.

    Declaring this cop guilty of all charges based on the mentallity and reaction of the Looters is the opposite of independant analysis BTW.
    I'm just noting the witness accounts that indicate Brown was unarmed, shot in the back, then shot multiple times after turning around and his hands up. And days have passed and nothing from the police to contradict any of it. The police haven't interviewed Johnson. We have no autopsy info and no confirmation of how many times and where Brown was shot etc. so based on all that, the evidence supports the "Looters."

    On what basis do you think the "Looters" are wrong?

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm just noting the witness accounts that indicate Brown was unarmed, shot in the back, then shot multiple times after turning around and his hands up. And days have passed and nothing from the police to contradict any of it. The police haven't interviewed Johnson. We have no autopsy info and no confirmation of how many times and where Brown was shot etc. so based on all that, the evidence supports the "Looters."

    On what basis do you think the "Looters" are wrong?
    Wow, just wow. How about because they are looters. That right there is an a big ****ing in your face clue they are wrong.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm coming around to the idea of cops wearing cameras.

    My reluctance has been about the elimination of discretion they represent. No more "catch and release" by cops anymore, which saved my ass more than once.

    With cameras, if the catch you you're going to jail. Because prosecutors will demand it and technically cops are supposed to do it now.
    Prosecution and defense should have access to the videos. Furthermore, all police questioning and interrogation sessions should be recorded with the recording being made available to prosecution and defense.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Well, cops have been killing blacks for as long as I can remember.

    I call it the "pit bull" syndrome. Not all pit bulls are dangerous but there are enough of them mauling small children that most anyone knows to be on guard around them.

    Cops are forever dealing with black thugs that are disproportionate, in number, compared to thugs of other races. I understand their reasoning and distrust when dealing with blacks but it still don't make it right.

    Add to the fire the all too common police psyche, that is common among the alpha male. "King of the Hill/Say Uncle," mentality types and now we have added nitro to the glycerin.

    I would hate to live in a society without law enforcement. But this jackboot mentality prevalent in modern policing will surely only lead to rebellion. Eventually, the police need to understand that they may be the meanest, baddest, strongest person on the street with the biggest gun and badge but they are by far outnumbered by the citizenry and that citizenry is also well armed. It would not surprise me to read more and more about law enforcement being "bushwhacked," as time goes on, if the police of our nation don't cool their jets and get some logical counseling about their defective personality traits that drives them to always be the "alpha dog." People hate bullies. Eventually, the badge won't stop the people from taking action of their own against these jackboots.

    All that being said, for every asshole cop there is, there are a dozen good ones. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. But it does need to get fixed. Sooner than later. I'm starting to get a bit PO'd at them myself and I am traditionally a supporter of our law enforcement officers. They really need to get their ego in check.
    If this data is correct, we have an awful lot of law enforcement officials in this country:

    •There are more than 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States, which is the highest figure ever. About 12 percent of those are female.


    •According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, an estimated 1.2 million violent crimes occurred nationwide in 2011, a four percent decrease from 2010.



    National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Law Enforcement Facts

    We rarely hear about incidents like this, so we can assume it's a pretty rare occurrence for cops to just go shooting at will.

    Damn, this was eye opening too:

    •Crime fighting has taken its toll. Since the first recorded police death in 1791, there have been over 20,000 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty. Currently, there are 20,267 names engraved on the walls of the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial.


    •A total of 1,501 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty during the past 10 years, an average of one death every 58 hours or 150 per year. There were 100 law enforcement officers killed in 2013.


    There are rogue cops. No doubt. But I assume most of them aren't.

    I'm not sure why anyone would be a cop these days personally. My brother in law retired from the NYPD a couple of years ago after 25 years. To me his pension wasn't worth what he went through in that job.

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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The first part of that is what most folks think I believe. As to the last, most folks would say it exists but haven't seen it or experienced it.

    Are you seriously here to tell us YOU are different and when you hear about someone who has a fight with the police, you automatically think the police are the aggressors? That says quite a lot about you.
    False dichotomy CB. The prudent and objective position would be to wait for investigations to be completed. And if authorities are slow or want to do so, then the public should push back hard on that. There's far too many young UNARMED kids getting killed by cops, that that doesn't bother you speaks volumes about yourself.
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    Re: Lawyer: Police Haven't Talked To Michael Brown Shooting Witness

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol...how hypocritcal of you.

    You people are the ones struggling to maintain any semblance of objectivity.

    You people are the ones who are perpetuating the same type of irresponsible assumptions that led to the riots.

    Declaring this cop guilty of all charges based on the mentallity and reaction of the Looters is the opposite of independant analysis BTW.
    Who's claiming that. There's been no completed investigations yet, but details of events that have been reported, like about anything else these days are sketchy and incomplete as well as suspicious. Anybody who buys whole heartedly either side isn't interested in truth and justice.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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