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Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

TheDemSocialist said:
That under Iraqi constitutional bases if they wanted foreign soldiers on their soil it must be voted on by them....
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And if those foreign soldiers are better armed and better trained, exactly what is the Iraqi constitution going to do about it?
 
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We invaded their ****ing country. Their government doesn't stand without our support. If we wanted troops there we would have troops there. Stop listening to Obama's BS. Has he ever told the truth?

Its amazing that the same people who say that Iraq was a war for oil and Imperialism now think we can't "negotiate" keeping our troops there. Morans.

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TheDemSocialist said:
That under Iraqi constitutional bases if they wanted foreign soldiers on their soil it must be voted on by them....
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DVSentinel said:
And if those foreign soldiers are better armed and better trained, exactly what is the Iraqi constitution going to do about it?
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Uhhh what? Someone has to train them...
 
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TobyOne said:
We invaded their ****ing country. Their government doesn't stand without our support.
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When we put into power their government and then they dont even want us there that says something. When both administrations failed to get the support that also says something..

If we wanted troops there we would have troops there. Stop listening to Obama's BS. Has he ever told the truth?
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Oh Christ. Yup it was only the Obama administration... I forgot :roll: Both administrations failed to make a deal with the Maliki regime, and also with the democratic government, and Constitution of Iraq which the American governement was so proud to uphold and follow!

Its amazing that the same people who say that Iraq was a war for oil and Imperialism now think we can't "negotiate" keeping our troops there. Morans.

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:lamo Now your post just got ironic!
 
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Just more evidence that ALL major religions are a COMPLETE and TOTAL waste of time.
 
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DA60 said:
Just more evidence that ALL major religions are a COMPLETE and TOTAL waste of time.
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I dont see Christians or Jews doing this sort of thing. Scampering off to wikipedia to mention a red herring from the 1300's wont change that.
 
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DVSentinel said:
One, Obamacare doesn't work. Two, legitimate functions of a government are not socialism. Police, fire, roads, military, taxes to support them are not socialism. They are what we pay a government to do because we cannot do them successfully as individuals. You really should go read up on socialism.

Right, like Britain didn't until they were attacked, real smart of them.

As to the US being in Isolation, perhaps you should look up whaling. The discovery and adoption of petroleum products. The Spanish American War. The invasion of Tripoli and suppression of the Barbary Coast pirates. The voyages of Commodore Mathew Parry. The Korean Expedition, in 1871. The Monroe Doctrine. etc, etc.

If we take action against someone, even economic sanctions, then yes, we are part of the war. Active war is only one method of pursuing our National Goals and Strategies. In economics we have conflicts with other nations. Without the use of military force, we cannot protect shipping and international markets which we depend upon. And finally, it is always better to fight a war on someone else's land than your own. Much easier on our civilians that way.
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Obamacare does not work? Funny my $40 month HC is great! after a LIFETIME of no HC! And millions are also getting HC now.

Yes they were ATTACKED. Did ISIS ATTACK USA?

Well guess what, Healthcare is a legitimate function of government.................

Yes all those things are USA worker first trade. Not screw USA trade every damb day like we have now.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
The major mistake in Iraq was going there to begin with. After that, I'm not sure that there was any avoiding the mess that it has become.
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Well, as soon as the US and allies invaded, the death rate in Iraq improved, infant mortality rates improved, and the population jumped from 22 million to 32 million very quickly. Lives were saved and a international menace was removed. And the leaders of 42 other countries agreed, as did, initially, all the major leaders in the Democratic Party.

The problem was that during the 2008 campaign, Obama seem to think that it was 2003 and he got to do a reset on Iraq. No, you don't do resets, you have to make decision based on the current situation.

While it is true that Bush did not extend the Forces Agreement it is also true that no one in 2009 and 2010 was giving Bush credit for ending the US involvement in Iraq. Obama claimed that he, Obama, ended the war. And Biden stated that Iraq was a major victory for Obama's foreign policy in 2010.

And don't you think that it would have been wrong for Bush to sign an extended agreement with Iraq knowing that he was leaving office and Obama wanted nothing to do with Iraq? That doesn't preclude Obama reaching an agreement to extend American presence there.
 
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TobyOne said:
Where would be as a nation and as a world if the US hadn't eventually taken a stand?
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No debt, no MIC to cause millions to suffer in USA, and no massive grave yards.

Free universal HC, 2 weeks vacation for all jobs, 3 years maturity leave, living wages, the list is endless. See you cant have the expence of
these things when all money is going to the MIC.
 
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Ah, a workers utopia or perhaps a happy Vaterland. Everyone works for the glory of the State.


274ina said:
No debt, no MIC to cause millions to suffer in USA, and no massive grave yards.

Free universal HC, 2 weeks vacation for all jobs, 3 years maturity leave, living wages, the list is endless. See you cant have the expence of
these things when all money is going to the MIC.
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US Conservative said:
I dont see Christians or Jews doing this sort of thing. Scampering off to wikipedia to mention a red herring from the 1300's wont change that.
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:rolleyes:

Funny, I thoughts Hitler was a Christian?

Hitler was a Christian

Were Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot atheists? | Freethought Nation

Christian Violence versus Muslim Violence

And those Christian ministers are so good and pure...they would never molest a helpless child over and over and over and over and over and over again...and then deny it whilst their leaders cover it up.

And I could go on and on.

Oh, and since you mentioned them...Crusades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


As for Jews - the rules will not allow me to say what I think of what some of them are doing to the innocent Palestinian children.


I am not getting into some useless which-major-religion-is-worse urinating contest...almost all of them suck equally in my book.


The point is look at all the tens of millions of people that have been killed in the name of major religions...and still to this day.

It's pathetic.

These clubs are a COMPLETE and TOTAL waste of time.

You disagree...fine.


We are done here.



Good day.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Yes, what an ass... oh wait:
How dare he take credit for what Bush accomplished?
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Live with your position then. So he is in fact a complete and total worthless tool that did absolutely nothing but NOT **** up the Iraqi troop withdrawal and claiming any type of credit for "ending the war in Iraq" would make him and anyone else a scumbag and a liar...right?

So...Obama won the presidency in 2008, took office in 2009. Did all forms of diplomacy, intel, common sense, and responsibility simply vanish once he became president? Is it completely unrealistic to expect that things happen...the world changes, things that might not have been foreseen 6 years ago, and that a competent president and commander in chief might not be required to actually 'act'? We have been observing extremist uprisings (supported by this administration) for at least 4 years now since the Muslim Brotherhood took power in Egypt. The administration answer...celebrate the overthrow by fundamentalists in Egypt, encourage it in Libya, support it in Syria, and ignore it in Iraq.

I guess it IS ok to just ignore it. After all...its not our responsibility that women and children are being butchered.

6 years later...its STILL blame Bush and ignore the administration failings.
 
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DA60 said:
:rolleyes:

Funny, I thoughts Hitler was a Christian?

Hitler was a Christian

Were Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot atheists? | Freethought Nation

Christian Violence versus Muslim Violence

And those Christian ministers are so good and pure...they would never molest a helpless child over and over and over and over and over and over again...and then deny it whilst their leaders cover it up.

And I could go on and on.

Oh, and since you mentioned them...Crusades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


As for Jews - the rules will not allow me to say what I think of what some of them are doing to the innocent Palestinian children.


I am not getting into some useless which-major-religion-is-worse urinating contest...almost all of them suck equally in my book.


The point is look at all the tens of millions of people that have been killed in the name of major religions...and still to this day.

It's pathetic.

These clubs are a COMPLETE and TOTAL waste of time.

You disagree...fine.


We are done here.



Good day.
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Besides the Crusades which of these was done in the name of religion? THAT, is the wiki 1300 strawman I knew you wouldn't be able to help posting. Your comparison just does not hold up.
 
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More civilians killed on behalf of religion. When will it be enough.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
A minority which ISIS presently seems to be committing what amounts to genocide against.

What's your point?
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he means not only christians but every living thing is under attack
 
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Eric7216 said:
Well, as soon as the US and allies invaded, the death rate in Iraq improved, infant mortality rates improved, and the population jumped from 22 million to 32 million very quickly. Lives were saved and a international menace was removed. And the leaders of 42 other countries agreed, as did, initially, all the major leaders in the Democratic Party.

The problem was that during the 2008 campaign, Obama seem to think that it was 2003 and he got to do a reset on Iraq. No, you don't do resets, you have to make decision based on the current situation.

While it is true that Bush did not extend the Forces Agreement it is also true that no one in 2009 and 2010 was giving Bush credit for ending the US involvement in Iraq. Obama claimed that he, Obama, ended the war. And Biden stated that Iraq was a major victory for Obama's foreign policy in 2010.

And don't you think that it would have been wrong for Bush to sign an extended agreement with Iraq knowing that he was leaving office and Obama wanted nothing to do with Iraq? That doesn't preclude Obama reaching an agreement to extend American presence there.
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Yes, Obama/Biden did try to take credit for having ended the Iraqi war. The right wing soundly denounced him for that, saying that the troop withdrawal had been negotiated prior to Obama's election, which was true.

I'm wondering where you got your information about the population of Iraq increasing so dramatically, and attributing that to lower infant mortality.
 
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VanceMack said:
Live with your position then. So he is in fact a complete and total worthless tool that did absolutely nothing but NOT **** up the Iraqi troop withdrawal and claiming any type of credit for "ending the war in Iraq" would make him and anyone else a scumbag and a liar...right?

So...Obama won the presidency in 2008, took office in 2009. Did all forms of diplomacy, intel, common sense, and responsibility simply vanish once he became president? Is it completely unrealistic to expect that things happen...the world changes, things that might not have been foreseen 6 years ago, and that a competent president and commander in chief might not be required to actually 'act'? We have been observing extremist uprisings (supported by this administration) for at least 4 years now since the Muslim Brotherhood took power in Egypt. The administration answer...celebrate the overthrow by fundamentalists in Egypt, encourage it in Libya, support it in Syria, and ignore it in Iraq.

I guess it IS ok to just ignore it. After all...its not our responsibility that women and children are being butchered.

6 years later...its STILL blame Bush and ignore the administration failings.
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We're not ignoring it. Blame who you want, there is plenty to go around. The bottom line is that invading and taking out Saddam Hussain was a bad idea from the get go. If you want to blame the Democrats, be my guest. The were as much a part of it as the Republicans were anyway.
 
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brothern said:
I've seen the videos months previous. They're beyond disturbing. I'm not going to forget anytime soon.

However this has only reached the news now that ISIS has reached Christian areas.
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Perhaps there is more intense interest now...and so?

We are more invested in our hometown and state news than we are, generally, in news from other towns and states. What's going on where we are is so much more "real" and "personal." States that don't experience tornadoes or hurricanes are less attentive to them and their destruction than states that do.

So much more so how and why we pay attention to what's going on in other countries. If the Christian connection makes what's going on more newsworthy and of more interest to more people, this is a good thing.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
We're not ignoring it. Blame who you want, there is plenty to go around. The bottom line is that invading and taking out Saddam Hussain was a bad idea from the get go. If you want to blame the Democrats, be my guest. The were as much a part of it as the Republicans were anyway.
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This isnt about blaming anyone for Saddam Hussein. Thats as stupid as Denver blaming last years Super Bowl loss on the SB24 loss against the 49ers. This is about a president that has been completely inept for 6 years. The situation with ISIS did not happen overnight. It didnt catch anyone by surprise. Stop playing the victim card. Geeeeezus...when Hillary is president are you still going to blame Bush for everything that happens during HER administration?
 
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VanceMack said:
This isnt about blaming anyone for Saddam Hussein. Thats as stupid as Denver blaming last years Super Bowl loss on the SB24 loss against the 49ers. This is about a president that has been completely inept for 6 years. The situation with ISIS did not happen overnight. It didnt catch anyone by surprise. Stop playing the victim card. Geeeeezus...when Hillary is president are you still going to blame Bush for everything that happens during HER administration?
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It isn't about blaming anyone, but let's blame Obama. OK, if you want, go ahead.

Do you really think Hillary is the next president? Republicans aren't even going to try to defeat her? Democrats have no other choice, really?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
It isn't about blaming anyone, but let's blame Obama. OK, if you want, go ahead.

Do you really think Hillary is the next president? Republicans aren't even going to try to defeat her? Democrats have no other choice, really?
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The current situation IS absolutely on Obama, just as Bush's mistakes were on him.

And yeah...I think if she will just shut up and go away for the next few years she will win the nomination. I am less certain of it considering her last few months-she has actually been kinda Mitt-esque with some of her comments. And no...I dont think it matters who the republicans put against her or whoever the candidate actually is. I think there are enough of the handout nation that she will be elected regardless. Of course...I also believe she will pick someone like Corey Booker and the entire campaign will be about racism, the war on women, abortion, and minimum wage.
 
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Perhaps the better approach is to stop trying to place blame and instead deal with the problem.
 
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brothern said:
The primary victims of the ISIS are not Christians, but Shia and other religious minority groups like Yazidis. Christians make up only a very tiny minority of Northern Iraq.
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All are enemies of the pychos and all will be killed.
 
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