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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

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    Bush is not in office and Saddam is dead.


    now what?

    My call? Get out and stay out. It's unfixable.
    well, that's my call too..... but it ain't gonna happen.

    the US position isn't going to change.... we'll be back saving people from barbarians in no time ( we are probably already there)
    Obama is not very good at decisive actions or quick thinking, but he knows the score....
    all he's doing now is weighing election season politics and trying to keep his base happy... he's got to guide the narrative so he can make his party look good for the upcoming elections.

    watch the media reporting.... it starts as reporting on the facts and ISIS taking **** over.... then we'll go full on into "humanitarian crisis" pieces.. they'll throw in some pieces about how the Iraqi govt can't handle thier business.
    and BAM.. we'll be back over thier ****ing **** up.( it's already starting, if you haven't noticed)

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    From your own source:

    But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.


    The statement added that Obama and Prime Minister al-Maliki “are in full agreement about how to move forward,” suggesting that the Obama administration had no intention of opposing the decision of the al-Maliki government. Yet at Thursday’s press conference, Obama claimed his hand had been forced by an uncooperative negotiating partner.

    And from the Washinton post:

    President Obama took credit in 2012 for withdrawing all troops from Iraq. Today he said something different. - The Washington Post


    "With regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe, that there should be a status of forces agreement," Romney told Obama as the two convened on the Lynn University campus in Boca Raton, Fla., that October evening. "That’s not true," Obama interjected. “Oh, you didn't want a status of forces agreement?” Romney asked as an argument ensued. “No,” Obama said. “What I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.”

    On Thursday, Obama addressed reporters in the White House Briefing Room about Iraq’s latest crisis. “Do you wish you had left a residual force in Iraq? Any regrets about that decision in 2011?” a reporter asked. “Well, keep in mind that wasn’t a decision made by me,” Obama said. “That was a decision made by the Iraqi government.”



    Woops. For Obama, Iraq was always a political issue, and now he's faced with his incompetence. Undoubtedly, many people will die because of his political calculations.



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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, we know tose excuses and they were made in 2011 but you seem unfamiliar with the history.

    Here it is. U.S.

    This describes the situation within the Bush Administration at the time.
    Further negotiations were expected but few thought at the time that the next President would simply abandon Iraq and leave it to its own devices. It was the first time Iraq had ever had a Democracy and they just couldn't cope. Expecting it to be run like democracies with a hundred years experience behind them was simply foolish, and deadly naive.

    Obama Flashback: 'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'

    Joe Biden | 2010 | Iraq | Achievement | Obama Administration
    Apparently you dont understand that immunity was a deal layed out by both administrations and if the Iraqi parliament didnt agree it was a no go...


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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    From your own source:

    But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.


    The statement added that Obama and Prime Minister al-Maliki “are in full agreement about how to move forward,” suggesting that the Obama administration had no intention of opposing the decision of the al-Maliki government. Yet at Thursday’s press conference, Obama claimed his hand had been forced by an uncooperative negotiating partner.

    And from the Washinton post:

    President Obama took credit in 2012 for withdrawing all troops from Iraq. Today he said something different. - The Washington Post


    "With regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe, that there should be a status of forces agreement," Romney told Obama as the two convened on the Lynn University campus in Boca Raton, Fla., that October evening. "That’s not true," Obama interjected. “Oh, you didn't want a status of forces agreement?” Romney asked as an argument ensued. “No,” Obama said. “What I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.”

    On Thursday, Obama addressed reporters in the White House Briefing Room about Iraq’s latest crisis. “Do you wish you had left a residual force in Iraq? Any regrets about that decision in 2011?” a reporter asked. “Well, keep in mind that wasn’t a decision made by me,” Obama said. “That was a decision made by the Iraqi government.”



    Woops. For Obama, Iraq was always a political issue, and now he's faced with his incompetence. Undoubtedly, many people will die because of his political calculations.
    Obama has control of the Iraqi parliament


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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    He doesn't even have control over his 9 iron, yet all he does is golf. Oh, and blame Bush.




    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Obama has control of the Iraqi parliament

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Apparently you dont understand that immunity was a deal layed out by both administrations and if the Iraqi parliament didnt agree it was a no go...
    It doesn't move the debate forward if you don''t read the links to discover what happened during that period.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well there ya go people... ISIS is a US creation.... Al queda too, obvsiouly.

    we should invade the US and kill all those evil terrorists creators.


    What I meant to say was that our actions, our interventions in the past are to blame for creating present day problems.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    From your own source:

    But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.


    The statement added that Obama and Prime Minister al-Maliki “are in full agreement about how to move forward,” suggesting that the Obama administration had no intention of opposing the decision of the al-Maliki government. Yet at Thursday’s press conference, Obama claimed his hand had been forced by an uncooperative negotiating partner.

    And from the Washinton post:

    President Obama took credit in 2012 for withdrawing all troops from Iraq. Today he said something different. - The Washington Post


    "With regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe, that there should be a status of forces agreement," Romney told Obama as the two convened on the Lynn University campus in Boca Raton, Fla., that October evening. "That’s not true," Obama interjected. “Oh, you didn't want a status of forces agreement?” Romney asked as an argument ensued. “No,” Obama said. “What I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.”

    On Thursday, Obama addressed reporters in the White House Briefing Room about Iraq’s latest crisis. “Do you wish you had left a residual force in Iraq? Any regrets about that decision in 2011?” a reporter asked. “Well, keep in mind that wasn’t a decision made by me,” Obama said. “That was a decision made by the Iraqi government.”



    Woops. For Obama, Iraq was always a political issue, and now he's faced with his incompetence. Undoubtedly, many people will die because of his political calculations.
    He is busted, plain and simple. Obama lied, innocents died.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    He doesn't even have control over his 9 iron, yet all he does is golf. Oh, and blame Bush.
    To be fair he does fund raise a lot, and he starts his vacation tomorrow.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    He doesn't even have control over his 9 iron, yet all he does is golf. Oh, and blame Bush.
    Hmmm so we have resorted to ad hominem's now.


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