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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Hey, remember back when George W called these people "evildoers", and every one of the Intellectual Set scoffed at how un-nuanced and simplistic he was?



    Anyone got a good argument for why that description does not apply to these people?

    Bush thought he was ordained by God to have a 'holy war' against 1.6 billion Muslims (23% of the world's population).....


    ''Just in the past few months,'' Bartlett said, ''I think a light has gone off for people who've spent time up close to Bush: that this instinct he's always talking about is this sort of weird, Messianic idea of what he thinks God has told him to do.'' Bartlett, a 53-year-old columnist and self-described libertarian Republican who has lately been a champion for traditional Republicans concerned about Bush's governance, went on to say: ''This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . . "
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/ma...BUSH.html?_r=0


    Muslims all over the world became a lot more radicalized after Bush's holey war against "evil doers" than they were before. But then, so did a lot of Americans.
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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Bush thought he was ordained by God to have a 'holy war' against 1.6 billion Muslims (23% of the world's population).....


    ''Just in the past few months,'' Bartlett said, ''I think a light has gone off for people who've spent time up close to Bush: that this instinct he's always talking about is this sort of weird, Messianic idea of what he thinks God has told him to do.'' Bartlett, a 53-year-old columnist and self-described libertarian Republican who has lately been a champion for traditional Republicans concerned about Bush's governance, went on to say: ''This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . . "
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/ma...BUSH.html?_r=0


    Muslims all over the world became a lot more radicalized after Bush's holey war against "evil doers" than they were before. But then, so did a lot of Americans.
    Bruce Bartlett is a butthurt former Republican and current denizen of Salon.com who was never close to Bush or his cabinet. He has no special insight into the President and there remains no reason to believe that Bush conceived of our campaign as a 'Holy War'.

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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Obama wanted to go in, but was smacked down, or
    Obama went in, and now the weapons are in the hands of ISIS...


    which?
    Covertly we were in nearly from the beginning with arms and training that's now being used to terrorise Iraq too! This is what China and Russia warned US interference in Syria would cause.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im talking about direct military action. He of course did aid the rebels.
    I see.
    Do you think he should have sent in troops?
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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Covertly we were in nearly from the beginning with arms and training that's now being used to terrorise Iraq too! This is what China and Russia warned US interference in Syria would cause.
    So, what was the right thing to have done in Syria?
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    This kind of **** needs to stop. It is time for us to organize and arm a Christian army to put a stop to this crap everywhere.

    I have an AR and a few hundred rounds of ammo, where do we meet up?
    I wholeheartedly agree. I think all of the religious in the world should arm up and head to the middle east so they can battle it out thunderdome style.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, what was the right thing to have done in Syria?
    Well, US support as well as Saudi support to the rebels gave them the strength to hang on and grow and effectively challenge president Assad. Had there been no support, president Assad would have crushed that rebellion early on. There wouldn't be 160,000 dead civilians, nor would IS (formerly ISIS) be wrecking havoc in Iraq right now, which is why, as I already said, Russia and China warned us of exactly what we are seeing today. In fact its clear that in one fashion or another, decades of support of militant Islamists along with the removal of Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and the attempted removal of Assad has the ME in such trouble now.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, US support as well as Saudi support to the rebels gave them the strength to hang on and grow and effectively challenge president Assad. Had there been no support, president Assad would have crushed that rebellion early on. There wouldn't be 160,000 dead civilians, nor would IS (formerly ISIS) be wrecking havoc in Iraq right now, which is why, as I already said, Russia and China warned us of exactly what we are seeing today. In fact its clear that in one fashion or another, decades of support of militant Islamists along with the removal of Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and the attempted removal of Assad has the ME in such trouble now.
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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Aren't you worried about being called a "hate America first" liberal?
    You big kidder you, haven't you seen that label thrown at me plenty already.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You big kidder you, haven't you seen that label thrown at me plenty already.
    Yep. It gets thrown at anyone who dares to suggest that perhaps, just maybe, our foreign policy in the ME is actually making things worse, that we should have stayed out of Iraq, as well as Syria. A few extreme America haters have even suggested that maybe arming the Mujahadeen was the wrong thing to do.

    Go figure. Us peacenicks are really way out there, at least according to rant radio.
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