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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    What they need is the rennesaince period. Someone to enlighten them to the civilized times that we live today.

    The first challenge is to not respond as barbarically however tempting it may be (e.g., Israel in Gaza) for they may be more immune to that. The second challenge is to influence their growth into our civilized times by avoiding reactance (i.e., their fears of changing their culture).
    Well, America has tried shoving democracy down the throats of people in different countries for a long time now, and it hasn't worked out too well for us, it keeps biting us in the rump.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    I can tell you that I do not get my information from the mainstream media. I live and work in the Middle East and I have contacts all over the region. Most of the media scare mongering over things happening their is orientalist nonsense. However, if anything they are downplaying just how horrific ISIS is. They are also not like Asad, Saddam Hussein, or Qaddafi. Those men are/were interested in only protecting and furthering their own power and wealth. They did horrible things to ensure that, but their ambitions were limited. The Islamic State on the other hand has no limitations on their ambitions. They want to establish a global caliphate. These are dangerous and evil men, and people are right to fear them.
    That maybe so, but that's irrelevant.

    The relevant issue is whether every single individual/group that the US mainstream media claims is affiliated with or supports ISIS actually does support it. And that's likely false.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Well, America has tried shoving democracy down the throats of people in different countries for a long time now, and it hasn't worked out too well for us, it keeps biting us in the rump.
    America (i. e. the People) have no power.

    And the US government has never attempted to create democracy anywhere; it's recent interventions in the world demonstrate a harsh contempt for democracy, in favor of rulers (elected in compromised elections or otherwise) that are friendly to US oil and mining interests. The gov't merely claims that those interventions were to foster democracy as a ruse.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    How many millennia have to pass before we get tired of waiting on this part of the world to grow up?
    Conservatives should grow up in about 18 millenia, i. e. in the year 18645, conservatives will understand such grown-up words like "propoganda", "ruse", etc.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Those people surely are barbaric, they don't fight a normal fight. Every time I hear beheading, it makes my skin crawl.
    That's the conservative motto:

    It is more humane to bomb children from airplanes than to behead them

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    That's the conservative motto:

    It is more humane to bomb children from airplanes than to behead them
    It's supposed to be termed collateral damage. It's not just conservatives either.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Well, America has tried shoving democracy down the throats of people in different countries for a long time now, and it hasn't worked out too well for us, it keeps biting us in the rump.
    Perhaps you missed calculating cross-cultural differences?
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    It's supposed to be termed collateral damage. It's not just conservatives either.
    Collateral damage is unintended, sporadic, and rare. What is still happening in Gaza is intended, continuous, and plentiful.
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Perhaps you missed calculating cross-cultural differences?
    Possibly. I do know America had been meddling in other countries affairs for as long as I can recall, trying to shove their points of view into every foreign government they've become entangled with. America install new leaders after toppling old ones, and they're actually no better than the ones they took out.

    When someone says cross cultural differences, I see Afghan men selling or trading their female children and wives for herds of animals, this still occurs to this very day. America should step back away and avoid involvement in third world nations, we are supposed to be more civilized that those, but, America probably is a world leader when it comes to terrorism. So in reality, America is probably no better than those dismembering people.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I think we've had this discussion before Monte, but I think at this point, we can safely assume that this isn't a "tiny minority" we're talking about. After all, how many people do you think are in that Quran burning, funeral protesting church anyways? 50? 100? Isis literally has an army that is ready to kill. That's not counting all those that support them all over the middle east.
    Of the 1.5 billion, its a tiny minority, sorry. That said, US policies in the Middle East have certainly been a good recruiting tool.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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