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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Maybe more peril is what the US needs to jolt us into accepting policies that will protect us going forward. Let me take a devil's advocate view here.... Obama claimed a red line, spoke to the press, had mitigating military options on the table.... 10,000 people dead, 50,000 people dead - multiple chemical attacks - 80,000 people dead in Syria, 100,000+ people dead in Syria. Nothing.

    We have an open border in the south of our country with border agents babysitting instead of patrolling - think terrorists haven't already come over that border? We're already in peril. This administration is willing to sell out anyone's safety to further their political policies.
    Indeed. Obama has no credibility or political capital, here or abroad. Everyone is miserable, the economy sucks, the govt spies on everyone-its a **** time to be an American, frankly. This is the worst Ive ever seen-but from talking to people older it sounds like this might be the worst in their memories as well.

    **** the PC political lies from our govt-they aren't representing us. Obama could have easily taken out ISIS a year ago, and instead he befriended the SAME group in Syria.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That may be your opinion, but the same could be said about the bible itself. There are always those that use the bible or other religious texts in a radical way either to gain or abuse power.

    The religion is not to blame, the interpretation of the religion is. Again, I'm not saying radical Islam is not a threat, but there is a reason it is RADICAL Islam and not Islam.
    Look back at the marxists, nazi's, etc-the moderates dont set the agenda, even if they are the majority. I highly recommend you catch this clip...id be interested in your thoughts.


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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Look back at the marxists, nazi's, etc-the moderates dont set the agenda, even if they are the majority. I highly recommend you catch this clip...id be interested in your thoughts.

    I can't load up the video from where I'm at but I will take a look at it later when I get to my home computer.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Look back at the marxists, nazi's, etc-the moderates dont set the agenda, even if they are the majority. I highly recommend you catch this clip...id be interested in your thoughts.

    Great stuff!!!

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Great stuff!!!
    Agreed, people need to ditch the PC BS and start talking straight. She knows this.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    ISIS is using tanks, mortars and rocket launchers. Good luck with your pea shooters.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    As I stated, these are complex factors. Perhaps the birth rate improved, perhaps because the people felt more confident about the future. Perhaps people started to have more children for some other reason. More was involved then the simply improvement in the death rate.
    It should be easy enough to look at the population of Iraq in 2002 or around that time, and the current population. From the same source. Perhaps compare that 33% or so boom in population with other countries at the same time. And ask yourself how it happened. I hypothesize that there was some improvement in the country, even while in a state of war.
    Wow! That is a surprise. The population of Iraq has been growing for a long time, despite dictators and wars. It went from just over 18 million in 1990 to over 32 million in 2010. There are some missing years, due to war no doubt, but a steady growth of population.

    Now, are we to attribute that to the demise of Saddam Hussain?

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Ok, well we had over 100,000 troops there at a cost of thousands of American lives and well over a trillion dollars for nearly 10 years. So are you willing to commit them there for another 10 on the off chance that a Muslim nation cobbled together will some how get its sh*t together after we blow another trillion dollars there? Iraq isn't Germany.
    I would absolutely have been willing to commit troops there for another 50 years, had we done it smarter from the get go. Ive spent 7 years in the ME. There are some very good people there. Our problem was not taking out Saddam. Our problem was not ousting the Taliban. our problem (which Bush and Obama are both responsible for) is that we have done a pisspoor job of post war ops. That starts in our congress and with the incessant game of politics people have engaged in since immediately after the war ended.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Great stuff!!!
    She has my vote.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Wow! That is a surprise. The population of Iraq has been growing for a long time, despite dictators and wars. It went from just over 18 million in 1990 to over 32 million in 2010. There are some missing years, due to war no doubt, but a steady growth of population.

    Now, are we to attribute that to the demise of Saddam Hussain?

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    Not sure. Using your data, it appears that in the 10 years prior, 1991 to 2001, the population grew from 18,561,000 to 23, 584,000. An increase of 27%. And from 2001 to 2011 the population grew from 23,584,000 to 32,540,000, and increase of 38%. 38% is 40% higher than 27%. Seems like a healthy improvement.

    Thanks for verifying that part of my point. But my main point is that the media lied and talked about how millions fled Iraq during the war and Lancet published studies Oct, 2004 and Oct 2006 (Oddly timed to shortly before US elections and widely reported in the media) about 100,000 Iraqis killed and 600,000 Iraqis killed, respectively. Yet when the war was over a more official report is that 103,000 Iraqis were killed total and most of those in the civil war that allied forces were trying to limit.


    How does a country's growth rate increase 40% over the previous period when a war is going on?
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