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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    And why is it OUR business?

    France and Germany killed millions for years and we smartly stayed out............1914 to 1917.

    Japan and China again killed millions and we stayed out..............1930 to 1941.

    Why are you so eager to start a war with religious nut cases?
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    And why is it OUR business?

    France and Germany killed millions for years and we smartly stayed out............1914 to 1917.

    Japan and China again killed millions and we stayed out..............1930 to 1941.

    Why are you so eager to start a war with religious nut cases?
    no war needed. just a couple minor league ICBMs in the right place

    problem solved



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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    And why is it OUR business?

    France and Germany killed millions for years and we smartly stayed out............1914 to 1917.

    Japan and China again killed millions and we stayed out..............1930 to 1941.

    Why are you so eager to start a war with religious nut cases?
    WW I, 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918, The US entered the War in 1917 after the sinking of the RMS Lusitania and Germany resuming unrestricted submarine warfare.

    WW II, 1939-1945, Official US involvement starting in Dec 1941. Prior to that, we supported the Chinese (Flying Tigers among others), Lend-Lease Program with Britain and the Soviet Union and blockades of raw materials entering Japan.

    As to "starting" a war with religious nuts, perhaps you should refer to all the terrorist and other activities of some Muslims since 1948.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    WW I, 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918, The US entered the War in 1917 after the sinking of the RMS Lusitania and Germany resuming unrestricted submarine warfare.

    WW II, 1939-1945, Official US involvement starting in Dec 1941. Prior to that, we supported the Chinese (Flying Tigers among others), Lend-Lease Program with Britain and the Soviet Union and blockades of raw materials entering Japan.

    As to "starting" a war with religious nuts, perhaps you should refer to all the terrorist and other activities of some Muslims since 1948.
    On WW1 so I am correct. thanks! LMAO!

    OPPS! Lies to enter the war are lies all over agian. WMD's anyone! "Although the Germans had reasons for treating Lusitania as a naval vessel, including that the ship was carrying war munitions and that the British had also been breaching the Cruiser Rules" And that Britannia sailed the Lusitania dispite a WAR ZONE DECLARATION. (MH 17 anyone????)

    and lets get the whole lie about USA entering WW1.

    WIKI
    "The British felt that the Americans had to declare war on Germany. However, US President Woodrow Wilson refused to act.[56] During the weeks after the sinking, the issue was hotly debated within the US government, and correspondence was exchanged between the US and German governments. German Foreign Minister Von Jagow continued to argue that Lusitania was a legitimate military target, because she was listed as an armed merchant cruiser, she was using neutral flags and she had been ordered to ram submarines – in blatant contravention of the Cruiser Rules."


    On WW2 - I am correct! Thanks! LMAO. And WW 2 started much earlier than that...............WIKI "The Japanese invasion of Manchuria began on September 19, 1931, when the Kwantung Army of the Empire of Japan invaded Manchuria immediately following the Mukden Incident. The Japanese established a puppet state, called Manchukuo, and their occupation lasted until the end of World War II." ( sorry one year off, not bad for off the top of my head)

    Terrorists only attack USA when we attack them...............or use proxies like Israel.

    Look at the History of Switzerland, and THINK!!!
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Chaldean Christians are both a religious and cultural / ethnic group, as far as I understand.

    Though, likewise, I understand your meaning.
    I believe so, as are the kurd subgroup that is surrounded on a mountain there.

    Its horrible and I can't believe Im even having the thought (Im typing this with tears in my eyes)-but If these groups that go back thousands of years (in mosul, those Christians have been there for 2K years, kurds too) have to go, I hope and pray that they can go together. There are pictures of these thugs holding guns to to the heads of infants. They want to defend themselves, and we aren't helping.

    The American left demonstrates its tolerance actually means tolerating thug islamists beheading children and raping their mothers. IN THIS THREAD we are asked what business is it of ours. I can't remember things ever being this bad.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, I see. The Bush Administration was gonna negotiate for them to stay. When Obama took credit for pulling them out, he was taking credit for something the Bush Administration already did, but now that things have gone (predictably) bad there, he wuzgonna change his mind.
    Not quite. Some anonymous U.S. officials and specialists who follow the war have argued they believe that parts of the agreement may be circumvented and that other parts may be open to interpretation, including: the parts giving Iraqi legal jurisdiction over United States soldiers who commit crimes off base and off duty, the part requiring for US troops to obtain Iraqi permission for all military operations, and the part banning the United States from staging attacks on other countries from Iraq.[38] For example, administration officials have argued that Iraqi prosecution of U.S. soldiers could take three years, by which time the U.S. will have withdrawn from Iraq under the terms of the agreement. In the interim, U.S. troops will remain under the jurisdiction of America's Uniform Code of Military Justice. Michael E. O'Hanlon, of the Brookings Institution research group, said there are "these areas that are not as clear cut as the Iraqis would like to think."[16]

    U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]

    Army planners have privately acknowledged they are examining projections that could see the number of Americans hovering between 30,000 and 50,000, but maybe as high as 70,000, for a substantial time beyond 2011. Pentagon planners say those currently counted as combat troops could be "re-missioned" and that their efforts could be redefined as training and support for the Iraqis.[40] Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen has also said "three years is a long time. Conditions could change in that period of time".[41]

    In a letter to U.S. military personnel about new rules of engagement, Gen. Ray Odierno said that U.S. forces would reduce their visibility but that this does not mean "any reduction in our fundamental ability to protect ourselves". Odierno wrote that U.S. forces would coordinate "operations with the approval of the GoI (Government of Iraq), and we will conduct all operations by, with, and through the Iraqi Security Forces...Despite some adjustments to the way we conduct operations, the agreement simply reinforces transitions that are already underway, and I want to emphasize that our overarching principles remain the same", he further wrote.[42]

    General Raymond Odierno said that some U.S. forces would remain at local security stations as training and mentoring teams past the June 2009 deadline specified in the status of forces agreement. In contrast, Robert Gates estimated U.S. troops will be "out of cities and populated areas" by June 30. "That's the point at which we will have turned over all 18 provinces to provincial Iraqi control", he predicted.[43] A spokesman for Odierno, Lt. Col. James Hutton, reiterated that the soldiers staying in cities would not be combat forces but rather "enablers," who would provide services such as medical care, air-traffic control and helicopter support that the Iraqis cannot perform themselves.[44] Odierno's comments sparked outrage among some Iraqi lawmakers who say the United States is paving the way for breaching the interim agreement.[45]

    When asked by Charlie Rose in a PBS interview how big the American “residual” force would be in Iraq after 2011, Secretary of Defense Gates replied that although the mission would change, “my guess is that you’re looking at perhaps several tens of thousands of American troops”.[15]

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    These are the guys that Al Qaeda considers too extreme. What did Obama think would happen if he withdrew? What an ass.

    Gahh the deal to withdraw was finalized before Obama. Hell the Bush admin bragged about it.

    But anyways if we stayed around how would we know this wouldnt of happened either?


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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Gahh the deal to withdraw was finalized before Obama. Hell the Bush admin bragged about it.

    But anyways if we stayed around how would we know this wouldnt of happened either?
    The Bush Administration expected troops to stay.
    When asked by Charlie Rose in a PBS interview how big the American “residual” force would be in Iraq after 2011, Secretary of Defense Gates replied that although the mission would change, “my guess is that you’re looking at perhaps several tens of thousands of American troops”.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    On WW1 so I am correct. thanks! LMAO!

    OPPS! Lies to enter the war are lies all over agian. WMD's anyone! "Although the Germans had reasons for treating Lusitania as a naval vessel, including that the ship was carrying war munitions and that the British had also been breaching the Cruiser Rules" And that Britannia sailed the Lusitania dispite a WAR ZONE DECLARATION. (MH 17 anyone????)

    On WW2 - I am correct! Thanks! LMAO. And WW 2 started much earlier than that...............WIKI "The Japanese invasion of Manchuria began on September 19, 1931, when the Kwantung Army of the Empire of Japan invaded Manchuria immediately following the Mukden Incident. The Japanese established a puppet state, called Manchukuo, and their occupation lasted until the end of World War II." ( sorry one year off, not bad for off the top of my head)

    Terrorists only attack USA when we attack them...............or use proxies like Israel.

    Look at the History of Switzerland, and THINK!!!
    And we were already involved in those conflicts, just not militarily. BTW, the invasion and start of Japan taking over Korea goes back to 1876.

    Prior to Japan becoming an ally of Germany, it was the Second Sino-Japanese War, not WWII.

    You also have a strange view about us supporting our friends and allies. If that pisses someone else off, tough ****. Isolationism never works. Kind of like socialism, something else you seem to support and believe in. Maybe you should ask Santa Claus or the Tooth Faerie to help you out.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Bush Administration expected troops to stay.
    Ad says Obama is reason for Iraq pullout | PolitiFact


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