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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...keep 100,000 troops there and it is stable after the government has stabilized and they have the capacity and will to defend themselves. You know...like we did in Germany after the 2nd WW. There were pockets of Nazi resistance that were taking shots at US soldiers for 15 years after the war and we are STILL there today. Had we done after the 1st what we did after the 2nd, there might not have BEEN a second.
    Ok, well we had over 100,000 troops there at a cost of thousands of American lives and well over a trillion dollars for nearly 10 years. So are you willing to commit them there for another 10 on the off chance that a Muslim nation cobbled together will some how get its sh*t together after we blow another trillion dollars there? Iraq isn't Germany.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well if they want this ISIS problem solved they are going to have to. Especially the ME countries and European countries.

    Here's the thing, what do you think will happen in the world when the U.S. economy crashes and then we CAN'T do anything at all? We simply cannot go at this alone anymore. We cannot afford it any longer both in lives and money.

    To be quite honest, with ISIS if it keeps getting worse and worse, the awful solution would be to turn that area into glass.
    Why, because YOU say they have to? The UN is ****, and without strong leadership the various small nations will do nothing. THIS is why the US is so important.

    Im quite libertarian on fiscal issues, but economy here WILL bite us in the ASS, and many more will die without us in the world.

    Making the region glass wont work, but slowly and steadily helping to deliver these backward and hateful people from the 7th century might be a worthwhile goal.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Unfortunately we cannot afford any longer to just go it alone. As much as you may want to "fix" something that is broken, sometimes you just HAVE to have help to fix it. This is one of those times.
    It may very well be that we cannot afford to allow this terror group to continue to grow in power and scope. If they gain more assets and land, how long before they march into other neighboring countries, like Jordan and Kurdistan, Turkey etc? We may not be able to wait for the UN to get their act together or have them join in later.

    I guarantee, if there's an affiliated terrorist attack on US soil the press and Congress will go ape bananas and send 500k troops and heavy arms, like the Kuwait invasion. Which IMO is how to fight a war and get it over with quickly, costing less money in the long run. Hell, it may even boost production enough to give the economy a kick start?

    ps. I know we don't have 500k active troops to send but we could get them if needed.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Why, because YOU say they have to? The UN is ****, and without strong leadership the various small nations will do nothing. THIS is why the US is so important.

    Im quite libertarian on fiscal issues, but economy here WILL bite us in the ASS, and many more will die without us in the world.
    It's not ME saying they have to its the reality of the situation that they have to. Eventually ISIS will be at thier doors and they WILL have to do something about it.

    Sorry but we cannot afford it economically to be there in that capacity alone. If the U.S. economy crashes we can't do anything about it anyways.

    Time for other countries to stand up or realize that ISIS will be at their doors.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Some examples from the religion of peace today-there is a photo of a 7 year old posing with a severed head. Hamas, which spent 40% of its budget digging tunnels in Gaza has executed its tunnel diggers, and apparently killed well over 100 children after they dug them.
    As you wrote, examples of Islam, and what it really is - Evil

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It may very well be that we cannot afford to allow this terror group to continue to grow in power and scope. If they gain more assets and land, how long before they march into other neighboring countries, like Jordan and Kurdistan, Turkey etc? We may not be able to wait for the UN to get their act together or have them join in later.

    I guarantee, if there's an affiliated terrorist attack on US soil the press and Congress will go ape bananas and send 500k troops and heavy arms, like the Kuwait invasion. Which IMO is how to fight a war and get it over with quickly, costing less money in the long run. Hell, it may even boost production enough to give the economy a kick start?
    Actually without other countries support monetarily or with troops it will crash our economy. We cannot take this debt alone.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    As you wrote, examples of Islam, and what it really is - Evil
    Yeah, because my Muslim neighbor is just like ISIS.

    Yes, radical Islam exists, that doesn't mean EVERYONE that follows Islam is a terorist and supports ISIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yeah, because my Muslim neighbor is just like ISIS.

    Yes, radical Islam exists, that doesn't mean EVERYONE that follows Islam is a terorist and supports ISIS.
    I'd certainly welcome their involvement in ridding the earth of the evil Islam is reigning down on innocent women and children. I understand Muslims are likely not to want to see the connection, but it's as real as water. Unfortunately, their overall silence is deafening. I don't know if they are threatened, or what it is that keeps them on the sidelines in areas where you would expect them to be loudly rejecting what is being done.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'd certainly welcome their involvement in ridding the earth of the evil Islam is reigning down on innocent women and children. I understand Muslims are likely not to want to see the connection, but it's as real as water. Unfortunately, their overall silence is deafening. I don't know if they are threatened, or what it is that keeps them on the sidelines in areas where you would expect them to be loudly rejecting what is being done.
    I can point to MANY American Muslims sites where they are denouncing the violence. The problem is that media doesn't want to cover it, but it is out there.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually without other countries support monetarily or with troops it will crash our economy. We cannot take this debt alone.
    Nah, we have a running debt of trillions that's showing no signs of slowing. I'm telling you, this ISIS has no barriers or reasons to stop. They're nucking futz, and if they disrupt the 17 million barrels of oil coming thru the Strait of Hormuz, it will cause a global economic collapse far faster than the US kicking ISIS back into the desserts.
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