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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How long did it take to stabilize Germany post WW2?

    Perhaps if both parties hadnt immediately switched from universal support of the war against terrorism to campaign mode at the expense of the mission and troops, the outcome there would have been radically different.
    Perhaps if the rest of the world got involved there wouldn't even BE an ISIS. I see lots of fault and blaming on Obama and GWB (Which they both deserve for their acts involved in Iraq and Afghanistan), but the fact is even with their blunders if the rest of the world had stepped up to the plate and contributed ISIS wouldn't even exist.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Perhaps if the rest of the world got involved there wouldn't even BE an ISIS. I see lots of fault and blaming on Obama and GWB (Which they both deserve for their acts involved in Iraq and Afghanistan), but the fact is even with their blunders if the rest of the world had stepped up to the plate and contributed ISIS wouldn't even exist.
    Sure...a valid point.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You know the U.S. is not the only country in the world, other countries could have EASILY picked up the slack should they have chosen to do so. Good going on blaming Obama for EVERYTHING though.
    Pray tell what nations easily could, let alone would. This will be interesting.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So what?? Imagine that, a politician trying to polish a turd... Keep a 100,000 American troops over there and it will be stable as long as we are there. Is that what you want?
    No...keep 100,000 troops there and it is stable after the government has stabilized and they have the capacity and will to defend themselves. You know...like we did in Germany after the 2nd WW. There were pockets of Nazi resistance that were taking shots at US soldiers for 15 years after the war and we are STILL there today. Had we done after the 1st what we did after the 2nd, there might not have BEEN a second.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pray tell what nations easily could, let alone would. This will be interesting.
    All countries could have contributed troops and money. Are you seriously saying that the countries in the U.N. can't contribute ANYTHING? Gimme a break. I don't think there are any countries (aside from one or two) that could foot the whole thing, but there are countries that could have contriubted to prevent this from coming.

    We can no longer afford to be the world's SOLE police either with money or lives.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Perhaps if the rest of the world got involved there wouldn't even BE an ISIS. I see lots of fault and blaming on Obama and GWB (Which they both deserve for their acts involved in Iraq and Afghanistan), but the fact is even with their blunders if the rest of the world had stepped up to the plate and contributed ISIS wouldn't even exist.
    My wife showed me pictures of beheaded children and others yesterday from a website she found a link to. Needless to say, it was EXTREMELY upsetting. These pictures, as disturbing as they remain to me today, should be circulated, so the world understands what Islam and ISIS represents.

    I'm not sure how it would be done, but it's time for the free nations of the world to band together and remove this evil from the planet.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pray tell what nations easily could, let alone would. This will be interesting.
    A better question might be what the UN might have done. Saddam Hussein's Defiance of United Nations Resolutions

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    These are the guys that Al Qaeda considers too extreme. What did Obama think would happen if he withdrew? What an ass.
    What did Bush think would happen when we attacked? What an ass.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    My wife showed me pictures of beheaded children and others yesterday from a website she found a link to. Needless to say, it was EXTREMELY upsetting. These pictures, as disturbing as they remain to me today, should be circulated, so the world understands what Islam and ISIS represents.

    I'm not sure how it would be done, but it's time for the free nations of the world to band together and remove this evil from the planet.
    Any beheading is upsetting, that is why I know longer look at them. And I agree with world needs to band together. What I'm tired of seeing is the world doing nothing and expecting the U.S. to foot the bill for everything with money and lives only to turn on us and say how bad we are for doing it.

    While I personally would like to see ISIS wiped off the map, I agree with Obama that we shouldn't be going back there boots on the ground without the world behind us and contributed equally in money and/or lives.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    All countries could have contributed troops and money. Are you seriously saying that the countries in the U.N. can't contribute ANYTHING? Gimme a break. I don't think there are any countries (aside from one or two) that could foot the whole thing, but there are countries that could have contriubted to prevent this from coming.

    We can no longer afford to be the world's SOLE police either with money or lives.
    I was expecting a nuanced answer like "all countries could have contributed troops and money." Heres how the world works-each nation looks after its own best interests-its only if these overlap and the political environment is right that you see cooperation in such matters. Most nations dont have the capability, let alone the inclination to really contribute.

    Remember Obama's strikes in Libya? Did you know while we got superficial support from other nations (Italy, France), we just GAVE them missiles to launch and bombs to drop?

    What you are going to see, in a world with less US involvement, and more by Russia and China is more of this type of even (child massacres) because thats how the world is, and nobody else will step in to do anything.

    Isolationism sounds great now to some, perhaps like it did on 9/10-and in the meantime things like this become more common.

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