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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    OK, it is 95% Muslims. How will we go about killing them all?
    Do you think stopping a religious genocide is the same as killing ALL muslims? Some of those minority groups being killed are muslims.
    Please read books.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    ISIS is in Iraq because a weak liberal allowed them to be. It happened on his watch, as a direct consequence of his policies.
    Everyone but the left knows this.
    I think everyone but the most partisan Republicans knows that had we never went into Iraq, continued with the policy of containment with Saddam, that today there would be no ISIS, there would be no civil war in Syria, there would be no strengthened Iran that was on its way to a possible nuclear bomb, there would be no Al Qaeda in Iraq, we would not have lost thousands of men there nor spent over a trillion dollars, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens would not have been killed.

    Yes, Saddam was a bad man, but he was a contained bad man that was no longer a threat to us, our allies, or even for the most part his own people (due to no fly zones). The question was then would going in and toppling him leave Iraq better than it was before. We know the answer to that now and many of us figured we knew what would happen then. The fact that some on the war mongering right still doesn't get it is no surprise to anyone. What would you have us do? Keep tens of thousands of American soldiers there for decades to come, and spend a hundred million dollars a year or more for decades to come, just so we can hold the mess together?
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    Re: Alexander or the Buffoon?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama is the most Nixonian President ever.
    And both were/are liberal statists. The biggest difference is that Obama is deeply tied to socialism, almost from birth. And of course it is hard to see past his embrace of Islamofascism.

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    Re: Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Let's hear what an Army colonel who fought there says....

    Army colonel: Don't go back to Iraq (Opinion) - CNN.com
    Obamas own current military advisors told him to stay. That is now, with the intelligence they have now.
    So YOU TELL ME if we are valuing our military advice or not, just tell me so we can play by your own rules.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I think everyone but the most partisan Republicans knows that had we never went into Iraq, continued with the policy of containment with Saddam, that today there would be no ISIS, there would be no civil war in Syria, there would be no strengthened Iran that was on its way to a possible nuclear bomb, there would be no Al Qaeda in Iraq, we would not have lost thousands of men there nor spent over a trillion dollars, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens would not have been killed.

    Yes, Saddam was a bad man, but he was a contained bad man that was no longer a threat to us, our allies, or even for the most part his own people. The question was then, would going in and toppling him leave Iraq better than it was before. We know the answer to that now and many of us figured we knew what would happen then. The fact that some on the war mongering right still doesn't get it is no surprise to anyone.
    Come pick me up in your time machine so we can go back and help saddam.

    Saddam is history, this is today. Unless you have a time machine lets talk about what we can change.

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    Re: Alexander or the Buffoon?

    How about before Nixon ?
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama is the most Nixonian President ever.
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    Re: Alexander or the Buffoon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And both were/are liberal statists. The biggest difference is that Obama is deeply tied to socialism, almost from birth. And of course it is hard to see past his embrace of Islamofascism.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Alexander or the Buffoon?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How about before Nixon ?
    Off the top of my head-LBJ, FDR, Lincoln.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Assuming your figures are accurate, how could that possibly translate into a population growth of nearly 1/3?
    As I stated, these are complex factors. Perhaps the birth rate improved, perhaps because the people felt more confident about the future. Perhaps people started to have more children for some other reason. More was involved then the simply improvement in the death rate.
    It should be easy enough to look at the population of Iraq in 2002 or around that time, and the current population. From the same source. Perhaps compare that 33% or so boom in population with other countries at the same time. And ask yourself how it happened. I hypothesize that there was some improvement in the country, even while in a state of war.

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    Re: Alexander or the Buffoon?

    Would you have preferred the Union/Federals not have been kept together ?
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Off the top of my head-LBJ, FDR, Lincoln.
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