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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The west wont fight until it has no other choice-thats the nature of the west. We have 2 fundamentally different and incompatible ideologies here-The wests judeo-Christian ethic vs Islamism. This is the real conflict-islamism is merely the symptom.

    Somewhere, liberals are sprinting to their computers to tell me Islamists are a minority-historically the radical minority has driven the agenda-see Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, etc-and the majority is irrelevant. The scale of scope of islamism as a cancer to the world has demonstrated this.

    They wont moderate because that would betray who they are. They wont relent because they believe the world is allahs, and belongs to muslims. Its acceptable to lie to infidels when expanding Islam-for the most recent example take the Gaza "cease fires" used to attack Israelis. These are facts.
    Many in the West may now begin to realize what the Jews have been going through all these centuries. If radical Islam is allowed control of the entire Middle East they will be a long way in achieving their goal.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    That would be the most accurate descriptor.
    I guess that is fair if you believe that Obama is the 1st real President of the U.S. and that all the others were just placeholders. Is that what you are saying?

    In the real world we have a former President that made the agreement that instigated our withdrawal from Iraq. You should read the National Review sometimes or is that too leftist for you?

    Still, it was not Obama who agreed to the withdrawal schedule. It was President Bush. And it was not Obama who turned Iraq into an Islamic-supremacist state seething with anti-American and anti-Semitic hatred. Long before Obama came to power, Iraq was an Islamist country, rife with Sunni and Shiite militants who agreed on little else besides their devotion to sharia and their abhorrence of the West.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rew-c-mccarthy
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I guess that is fair if you believe that Obama is the 1st real President of the U.S. and that all the others were just placeholders. Is that what you are saying?

    In the real world we have a former President that made the agreement that instigated our withdrawal from Iraq. You should read the National Review sometimes or is that too leftist for you?

    Don
    Obama has been commander in chief for 6 years, bud. If HE thought it wasn't going to work, why on earth would he continue that policy-to lead us to THIS situation-Islamists expanding all over Asia and Africa and with organized killing of Children?

    In the presidential debates Obama said he pulled out because he didn't want to be bogged down in Iraq-NOT because he was following Bush. If it was such a good idea, WHY IS HE NOW GOING BACK?

    This is why your silly defense does not work.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    We spent billions training and arming "the opposition" for 10 years and they turned that training on their own people and now they are reaping the results as we are for our mistakes. ISIS is a direct result of our invasion of Iraq. Why do you think we won't continue to make things worse if we insist on maintaining the falsehood that we "won" that war? Is "bring it on" actually still your best plan for our place in the world? How's that working out?
    Don't be silly. ISIS is the face of Islamofascism. Granted, Islamofascism has its supporters in the White House. I get that.

    Can you explain how arming and supporting the people who are being rounded up and murdered is in any way making the case that we won the war? The fact that we won the war is not relevant to the fact that the Islamofascist in the White House gave back the victory. And now innocent people are being murdered. And you, not surprisingly, want to avert your eyes as the beheadings go on. I expected that based on your liberal lean.

    I believe you have a certain "knee-jerk" response to any messages that says innocent victims deserve a hand in helping themselves.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama has been commander in chief for 6 years, bud. If HE thought it wasn't going to work, why on earth would he continue that policy-to lead us to THIS situation-Islamists expanding all over Asia and Africa and with organized killing of Children?

    In the presidential debates Obama said he pulled out because he didn't want to be bogged down in Iraq-NOT because he was following Bush. If it was such a good idea, WHY IS HE NOW GOING BACK?

    This is why your silly defense does not work.
    He is not going back. He is providing humanitarian aid and defending American interests in Iraq. He tried it Bush's way and surprise...it failed. Picking up the pieces has been a full time job for the President. He predecessor was THAT bad.
    Perhaps now that Malaki is gone, there is a chance for a coalition Govt. that will unite against ISIS. That would not have happened if we continued our "mission" in Iraq as you want. We were just using our blood and treasure to put off the inevitable. Is that how much you value our soldiers?

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The west wont fight until it has no other choice-thats the nature of the west. We have 2 fundamentally different and incompatible ideologies here-The wests judeo-Christian ethic vs Islamism. This is the real conflict-islamism is merely the symptom.

    Somewhere, liberals are sprinting to their computers to tell me Islamists are a minority-historically the radical minority has driven the agenda-see Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, etc-and the majority is irrelevant. The scale of scope of islamism as a cancer to the world has demonstrated this.

    They wont moderate because that would betray who they are. They wont relent because they believe the world is allahs, and belongs to muslims. Its acceptable to lie to infidels when expanding Islam-for the most recent example take the Gaza "cease fires" used to attack Israelis. These are facts.
    That whole area has nothing but Muslims are you suggesting we kill 'em all? It sure sounds like it. Maybe we should build some ovens to take care of the bodies, I believe the Germans still have the plans for some BIG ones.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He is not going back. He is providing humanitarian aid and defending American interests in Iraq.
    No bombs, just aid?
    He tried it Bush's way and surprise...it failed.
    What did he try Bush's way?
    Picking up the pieces has been a full time job for the President. He predecessor was THAT bad.
    What pieces has he picked up? The situation is worse than ever!
    Perhaps now that Malaki is gone, there is a chance for a coalition Govt. that will unite against ISIS. That would not have happened if we continued our "mission" in Iraq as you want. We were just using our blood and treasure to put off the inevitable. Is that how much you value our soldiers?
    It was Barrack Obama who pulled out of Iraq, just as he promised he would during his election campaign. He said that Iraq was now 'stable' and Biden said Iraq was their greatest success. He abandoned what progress the American military had made, the lives they lost, the money they spent, all to make himself look good in front of the know-nothing leftists.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That whole area has nothing but Muslims are you suggesting we kill 'em all? It sure sounds like it. Maybe we should build some ovens to take care of the bodies, I believe the Germans still have the plans for some BIG ones.
    Maybe instead of guessing at what facts "sounds like", which is a confusion endemic among leftists, why not look at what's actually been said. Any sensible person could read the post and understand that it never hinted that all Muslims should be killed. Can you see now why it's so difficult to communicate with Leftists?

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He is not going back. He is providing humanitarian aid and defending American interests in Iraq. He tried it Bush's way and surprise...it failed. Picking up the pieces has been a full time job for the President. He predecessor was THAT bad.
    Perhaps now that Malaki is gone, there is a chance for a coalition Govt. that will unite against ISIS. That would not have happened if we continued our "mission" in Iraq as you want. We were just using our blood and treasure to put off the inevitable. Is that how much you value our soldiers?
    We are going back, and nobody is buying your excuses for Obama.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That whole area has nothing but Muslims are you suggesting we kill 'em all? It sure sounds like it. Maybe we should build some ovens to take care of the bodies, I believe the Germans still have the plans for some BIG ones.
    No turbo, in fact THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD IS THAT CHRISTIANS AND OTHER MINORITIES ARE BEING MASSACRED.
    Its not "nothing but muslims", perhaps some time reading might be elucidating for you.

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